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The Best Youtube video ever posted on TC
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 10:59 am |
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I have my views on sexism, but not necessarily in the same format as the "gang of three" above. I just find this continual debate about equality so boring. When it is no longer "when it suits" sexism I will support it. Whilst there are millions of women happy with their "sexist" situations, and whilst sexism has never affected me personally, then I will look after number one.
The three of you are giving out the wrong vibes to me, that you all hate men with a vengance.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 11:36 am |
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Quoting libralady: I have my views on sexism, but not necessarily in the same format as the "gang of three" above. I just find this continual debate about equality so boring. When it is no longer "when it suits" sexism I will support it. Whilst there are millions of women happy with their "sexist" situations, and whilst sexism has never affected me personally, then I will look after number one.
The three of you are giving out the wrong vibes to me, that you all hate men with a vengance. |
As I said before, substitute the word "sexist" for "racist" and then read your comment again.....
You think I hate men, and it bothers you? I certainly DONT hate men, just this masculine dominated society. My boyfriend shares my views, and would disagree with you strongly that I hate men   However, if it suits you to think of the "gang of three" as shaven head, lesbian men- haters, then that's your problem
Interesting to see how quickly you defend them though, while disregarding women as "happy with their lot".
You are lucky that you feel sexism has never affected you. We live in such a 'civilised' country and you are "one of the boys" at work. Lucky you! The UK still discriminates in a big way! Even if you don't want me to go into the sociology or cultural issues, I will bring it down to your selfish level.
I still know of companies who don't like to promote women because "they may have babies" or, my favourite one from PERSONAL experience, employ women in lesser administrative roles because "its not enough money for a man to live on". Women who manage to make it to managerial roles are usually ridiculed in the most disgusting way by men – it’s a fact. But you are right, they probably “accept their lot†eh?
Yes...you are right, its such a bore 
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 12:57 pm |
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" Sexism has always been the issue, that's for sure, but I don't know if it was ever so explicitly glorified and it's very alarming to me that in our modern, civil societies these messages go unchallenged. "
You blame me for being naive, but then you conflict with youeselves because what I said before was the same, man has always been the dominant and ruled the world, but why has it become so alarming today in the modern world? This hip hop culture and most of the stupid beautiful sexy girls images propagandas have come from USA since the late 1980. Isn't it because of capitalism? Even the rappers have become much more muscled to attract the girls in a sexy way. What's all this? Isn't it just making more money? So, you have to change all the system in order to challenge with this sexism. This sexism is not about the ignorant men seeing themselves superior and wanting to dominate women and ignorant women that want to be submissive.
I think you make mistake when you give here all kinds of different sexisms and degradations of women. All of them are not the same, the sources are not the same. All of them has its own characteristics, the sexism and masculanity in the walt disney, and the sexism in the hip hop culture, and then the sexism in the undevelopped countries are relatively all different, and they should be all handled rather independently not to complicate things.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 01:16 pm |
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Quoting mltm: man has always been the dominant and ruled the world, but why has it become so alarming today in the modern world? |
Edited - I misunderstood your point.
Your point is that sexism is worse because of the evil capitalistic west? !
You make me laugh so much Meltem - really, I am crying here! 
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 02:49 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: I will bring it down to your selfish level.
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Yep selfish I am! 
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 03:48 pm |
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Quoting gezbelle: Quoting bydand: If women themselves are apathetic what can I do? |
not all women are apathetic.
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Where are they then? 
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 03:51 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting bydand: If women themselves are apathetic what can I do? |
not all women are apathetic. |
I am sure he's aware of that, he just couldn't find a better excuse for his own apathy on this issue. |
What am I supposed to do? Chain myself to the gates of Buckingham Palace
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 04:24 pm |
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Quoting bydand: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting bydand: If women themselves are apathetic what can I do? |
not all women are apathetic.
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Where are they then? |
I am here!
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 04:47 pm |
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Quoting libralady: The three of you are giving out the wrong vibes to me, that you all hate men with a vengance. |
Libralady, can you please point out to me what it is that suggests that I hate men? :-S 
Your way of presenting arguments libralady by itself shows that there's something wrong with your attitude. Why do you feel the need to objectify us as "the gang of three" to not give us credibility? Isn't there really any reason as to why you disagree with us and it's all your emotions?
And finally, why do you keep posting on this thread if it's such a bore to you? Do you post this valuable contribution to every thread you find boring??? It's pathetic.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 04:54 pm |
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Quoting bydand: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting bydand: If women themselves are apathetic what can I do? |
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They are in many places, but surely not in pop media or porn. Maybe that's why you don't see them.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 04:56 pm |
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Quoting mltm: You blame me for being naive, but then you conflict with youeselves because what I said before was the same, man has always been the dominant and ruled the world, but why has it become so alarming today in the modern world? |
Mltm, what is your point??? "that it's more complicated"? "that you said it too"? "that it's all because of the west"? You have no reasonable argument for why you disagree, just bunch of unsupported claims. Makes me wonder whether you form your views first or whether you decided to disagree first and then find your "reasons".
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