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Egyptian Girl dies during circumcision
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1.       SunFlowerSeed
841 posts
 13 Aug 2007 Mon 10:57 am

Sometime ago there was a topic that people were talking on circumcision. On my way to home, I received a U.A.E.(B.A.E. in Turkish) newspaper(Gulf News) in the airplane. There was a news about that. I just want to share it with you.

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Egyptian girl dies during circumcision:
Facility shut and doctor being quizzed.

Cairo(AFP) a 13-year-old Egyptian girl has died during an illegal operation to mutilate her genitalia, the Al Masri Al Yom daily reported yesterday.
Karima Rahim Massud died as the result of problems with the anasthaesia in the Nile Delta village of Gharbiya.
Her death was discovered after her father sought a death certificate from another doctor.
The medical practice where the operation took place has been closed, and the doctor is being interrogated, the newspaper said.
Female genital mutilation, also known as female circumcision, is a practice that dates back to pharaonic times in Egypt.
It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Somalia on the East Coast, and from Egypt in the north to Tanzania in the south. The practice, which affects both Muslim and Christian women in Egypt, was banned in 1997 but doctors were allowed to operate "in exceptional cases".
Female circumcision can cause death through hemorrhaging and later complications during childbirth. It also carries risks of infection, urinary tract problems and mental trauma.

Banned
In June, following the death of 12-year-old Bedur Ahmad Shaker, Health Minister Hatem Al Gabali issued a decree banning every doctor and member of the medical profession from performing the procedure.
The ban must still be translated into law and could face a tough debate in parliament, but is likely to be passed.
A government survey in 2000 said the practice was carried out on 97 percent of the country's women aged between 15 and 45 years of age.
Religious leaders, usually silent on taboos relating to female sexuality, have also started to speak out against the practice, which many Egyptians believe is a duty under Islam and Christianity. After the death of Shaker, chief mufti Ali Gomaa declared female circumcision forbidden under Islam.
Mohammad Sayyed Tantawi, the Shaikh of Al Azhar University, the top Sunni Muslim authority, and Coptic Patriarch Chenouda III also declared it had "no foundation in the religious texts" of either Islam or Christianity.
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2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Aug 2007 Mon 11:13 am

Besides the horrible act itself, I find awful that her father wanted a death certificate telling her death was 'a natural death'! Mutulating your daughter and then say 'it is natural'?

For those of you who want to know in which countries it occurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutting

3.       elham
579 posts
 13 Aug 2007 Mon 12:22 pm

This act only in Egypt and some African countries neighboring. Egyptian intellectuals trying to get rid of this phenomenon, but the insistence of ignorant people due to historical periods have nothing to do with the religion of Islam or Christian

4.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 13 Aug 2007 Mon 03:54 pm

Quoting elham:



The speaker on the wonders of the Patriarchial Society

5.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Aug 2007 Mon 04:10 pm

Quoting elham:

This act only in Egypt and some African countries neighboring. Egyptian intellectuals trying to get rid of this phenomenon, but the insistence of ignorant people due to historical periods have nothing to do with the religion of Islam or Christian



Have you read the link I gave, Elham? I doubt it, else you would know it also occurs in Iraq.

Whilst FGC is widely practiced out in the open by African Muslims and Ethiopians and Eritreans of all faiths, it is practiced in secrecy in some parts of the Middle East. The practice occurs particularly in northern Saudi Arabia, southern Jordan, and Iraq, and there is also circumstantial evidence to suggest it is present in Syria, western Iran and southern Turkey. In Oman a few communities still practice FGC; however, experts believed that the number of such cases was small and declining annually. In the United Arab Emirates and also Saudi Arabia, it is practiced mainly among foreign workers from East Africa and the Nile Valley.

6.       elham
579 posts
 15 Aug 2007 Wed 06:19 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting elham:



The speaker on the wonders of the Patriarchial Society


An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth

7.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 15 Aug 2007 Wed 06:33 pm

Quoting elham:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting elham:



The speaker on the wonders of the Patriarchial Society


An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth



Oops, yes it was a bit wasn't it sorry - you caught me on a bad day!

8.       elham
579 posts
 15 Aug 2007 Wed 06:45 pm

no problem canim
we are only speaker on nothing

9.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 15 Aug 2007 Wed 06:53 pm

Quoting elham:

no problem canim
we are only speaker on nothing



I should inform you that I am an expert on NOTHING! It is my speciality subject! lol

10.       elham
579 posts
 15 Aug 2007 Wed 07:00 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting elham:

no problem canim
we are only speaker on nothing



I should inform you that I am an expert on NOTHING! It is my speciality subject! lol


yes , you are right, me too, but do you know, what is the last news of NOTHING?
cause i did not attend the meeting of NOTHING

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