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to be religious or to be ethical ,which one is priority?
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 05:54 pm |
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Strange,but not in religion .
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 05:54 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Hmmm ok then please explain this story  A well known journalist in the UK, who is normally a foreign correspondent in Arab countries (and has many friends there) recently made a series of documentaries in the UK about the immigrant muslim community. What he discovered horrified him.
In the UK, many muslims live an ENTIRELY separate life. They create a separate part of each town and NEVER venture out of it. They use their own public transport and even their own taxi services only. The ones who agreed to be interviewed said that they did not want to socialise in any way with English people because they were "evil".
He managed to interview a 10 year old girl, born in England, and asked "how many English people do you know, or have you met, in your life".
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"One, my teacher"  |
so what? can you say to be religious is selfish only according to this? it is stupid of some arabic muslims in UK. nothing more.
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 05:55 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting MrX67: if we can find to true alternative i think will not much need to discussion about beliefs? |
İ dont undestand even the question MrX,
İts strange too.
Who said religions 'ALL religions' dont order good ethics ?
So there is no 'or' here.
İf you are religious,you should have good ethics too.
As i said,SHOULD,but some aply them and some dont. |
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 05:56 pm |
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Quoting ciko: so what? can you say to be religious is selfish only according to this? it is stupid of some arabic muslims in UK. nothing more. |
No this was not about selfishness. You said that in Islam it has many social rules about people around you.
Here was my example of them..
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 05:57 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Hmmm ok then please explain this story A well known journalist in the UK, who is normally a foreign correspondent in Arab countries (and has many friends there) recently made a series of documentaries in the UK about the immigrant muslim community. What he discovered horrified him.
In the UK, many muslims live an ENTIRELY separate life. They create a separate part of each town and NEVER venture out of it. They use their own public transport and even their own taxi services only. The ones who agreed to be interviewed said that they did not want to socialise in any way with English people because they were "evil".
He managed to interview a 10 year old girl, born in England, and asked "how many English people do you know, or have you met, in your life".
Her reply?
"One, my teacher" |
We have many of these "sub-communities" here in America too. But to be honest, when my mother's family came here from Italy they did not socialize outside their community for a long time. And when my father's family came here from Ireland, there were signs in store windows saying "NO IRISH" and when they posted jobs in news papers there were captions like, "NO IRISH NEED APPLY", so the Irish were almost forced to stay amoungst themselves. It has happened many times here but eventually everyone integrated. I think/hope it will be the same for England.
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 05:58 pm |
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and i think thats a part of human nature,we mostly prefer to hard things while the easy and usefull things waiting us with their all charm
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 06:02 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: so what? can you say to be religious is selfish only according to this? it is stupid of some arabic muslims in UK. nothing more. |
No this was not about selfishness. You said that in Islam it has many social rules about people around you.
Here was my example of them.. |
yes thank you for your example and i am telling you that the example is not representing islam.. but you are right ..70 % muslims get islam wrong. islam for them means only covering up and praying..so i cannot blame you to think like that it is our own fault
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 06:08 pm |
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i think the name of our TC will be TURKISH LANGUAGE CLASS
AND RELIGIONS
What happened all threads talk about RELIGIONS
i forget learn turkish becausse these threads :-S
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 06:09 pm |
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Heheh well its endlessly fascinating to me. I learn more from here than I ever would from English muslims (because they wont talk to me )
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 06:10 pm |
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Quoting elham: i think the name of our TC will be TURKISH LANGUAGE CLASS
AND RELIGIONS
What happened all threads talk about RELIGIONS
i forget learn turkish becausse these threads :-S
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are you complaining? i dont think it is so bad to discuss religions ...as long as we respect and dont insult eachother
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24 Aug 2007 Fri 06:11 pm |
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Quoting elham: i think the name of our TC will be TURKISH LANGUAGE CLASS
AND RELIGIONS
What happened all threads talk about RELIGIONS
i forget learn turkish becausse these threads :-S
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