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11th President of the Republic.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 09:27 pm |
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2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 09:31 pm |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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Happily nothing happened, I heard yesterday the army warned again...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 09:31 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: well, he's not President, nor wil he be....
That would be impossible. |
Want to eat your words Keith?  
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 09:38 pm |
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Well if the Army do move in, I guess Meltem will be supporting them.
I can see what you are saying (that you fear an Islamic State) Meltem, but don't you see the IRONY that you are asking for army intervention to defend democracy and therefore by that very act you just ignore voters and just create a different "state" which is not democratic 
Quoting mltm: Quoting ciko:
he will be president at the end of august and you all have to accept that someone whose wife is headscarved in turkey could be president 47 % turks aproved it.. no matter what you say..this is democracy.. and i am so happy i love to see you narrow minded people so angry |
You are being funny.
I support any military intervention if Gül becomes president for the name of DEMOCRACY. |
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 09:58 pm |
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The timing is very important. Yes, I do support that army take care of the situation if the future of our democracy and our principle of secularism become in bare danger. At this moment, I do not support any intervention because it will make the things worse. The army make declarations which I find very necessary just to make everyone be aware that his eye is and will be on them. In the coming months, years, whatever, in a or a series of bare antidemocratic, antilaic acts, decisions, then I'll support that a coup d'état takes place, but it's not because I like militarist regime but because I like my democratic laic republic.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:00 pm |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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He deserved this..We love you Abdullah Gul...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:03 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate: Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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He deserved this..We love you Abdullah Gul... |
i just wonder what he did to deserve this?
can you give me a few examples for that?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:05 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Lifemate: Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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He deserved this..We love you Abdullah Gul... |
i just wonder what he did to deserve this?
can you give me a few examples for that? |
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:08 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Lifemate: Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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He deserved this..We love you Abdullah Gul... |
i just wonder what he did to deserve this?
can you give me a few examples for that? |
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul? |
oh please i am not defending Sezer here... for gods sake can you answer my question?
and no i am not afraid of Gul... but i dont have hope that he will make good things for this country... oh well...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:11 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Lifemate: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Lifemate: Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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He deserved this..We love you Abdullah Gul... |
i just wonder what he did to deserve this?
can you give me a few examples for that? |
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul? |
oh please i am not defending Sezer here... for gods sake can you answer my question?
and no i am not afraid of Gul... but i dont have hope that he will make good things for this country... oh well... |
Save your idea to yourself then..You are good Galatasaray supporter but in this subject we have seperate ideas..
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:11 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate:
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul? |
Ohhh ohhh myyy God (or Aman allahım), what did Sezer do? Do you say this??? I don't know what you read to get the news, but Sezer was one of the best presidents that has come to Turkey after Atatürk.
Anyway, let not discuss this.
And we are not afraid of Abdullah Gül, we are afraid that he will be just a puppet for the aims of islamists and the exterior islamist regime supporters.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:12 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate: You are good Galatasaray supporter .. |
Is there such a thing?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:13 pm |
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you dont have answer for my question?
true we cant have always same ideas...
but dont you have a simple example to me for that he deserves this?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:16 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: you dont have answer for my question?
true we cant have always same ideas...
but dont you have a simple example to me for that he deserves this? |
Don't you see? There is NO answer. MEN tend to revert to tribe behaviour in politics, just the same as they do with football. The only thing that matters is that HIS team "won" so he loves them!
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:16 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting Lifemate:
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul? |
Ohhh ohhh myyy God (or Aman allahım), what did Sezer do? Do you say this??? I don't know what you read to get the news, but Sezer was one of the best presidents that has come to Turkey after Atatürk.
Anyway, let not discuss this.
And we are not afraid of Abdullah Gül, we are afraid that he will be just a puppet for the aims of islamists and the exterior islamist regime supporters. |
What did Sezer do?Give me some example?You suppose Gul will ban some independence of people..Dont worry he will do the best..
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:18 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: you dont have answer for my question?
true we cant have always same ideas...
but dont you have a simple example to me for that he deserves this? |
I am waiting your answer too..What did Sezer do for becoming this rate??
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:19 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting Lifemate:
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul? |
Ohhh ohhh myyy God (or Aman allahım), what did Sezer do? Do you say this??? I don't know what you read to get the news, but Sezer was one of the best presidents that has come to Turkey after Atatürk.
Anyway, let not discuss this.
And we are not afraid of Abdullah Gül, we are afraid that he will be just a puppet for the aims of islamists and the exterior islamist regime supporters. |
no thats not the reason actually meltem... they are too capitalist... they love money more than what their religion believe me...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:19 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: you dont have answer for my question?
true we cant have always same ideas...
but dont you have a simple example to me for that he deserves this? |
Don't you see? There is NO answer. MEN tend to revert to tribe behaviour in politics, just the same as they do with football. The only thing that matters is that HIS team "won" so he loves them! |
Soccer is lifestyle for us..Do me a favour and go and make cook..
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:21 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate: Soccer is lifestyle for us..Do me a favour and go and make cook.. |
You sexist! I prefer men to do the cooking - and I love football (just hate Galatasaray). Keep your stereotypical sexist thoughts to yourself please.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:21 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: you dont have answer for my question?
true we cant have always same ideas...
but dont you have a simple example to me for that he deserves this? |
Don't you see? There is NO answer. MEN tend to revert to tribe behaviour in politics, just the same as they do with football. The only thing that matters is that HIS team "won" so he loves them! |
Very observant, AEnigma. I wish we could have world cup politics!
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:24 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate: I am waiting your answer too..What did Sezer do for becoming this rate?? |
Why does Sui have to answer? He did not say "I love Sezer" so therefore does not have to qualify himself
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:26 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting mltm: Quoting Lifemate:
What did Sezer do?Can you tell me?Are you afraid of Gul? |
Ohhh ohhh myyy God (or Aman allahım), what did Sezer do? Do you say this??? I don't know what you read to get the news, but Sezer was one of the best presidents that has come to Turkey after Atatürk.
Anyway, let not discuss this.
And we are not afraid of Abdullah Gül, we are afraid that he will be just a puppet for the aims of islamists and the exterior islamist regime supporters. |
no thats not the reason actually meltem... they are too capitalist... they love money more than what their religion believe me... |
Everybody loves money in this world and some of them think other world..And go on votting to Baykal..Anyway I am happy about our government..Try to go Blacksea and see how roads there now..and go to East of Turkey and listen them..I was thinking to go to East of Turkey for army obligation but I do not want now after seeing ideas you and some people of like you..Why I will defend my country?Because of these people?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:33 pm |
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Quoting Lifemate:
Everybody loves money in this world and some of them think other world..And go on votting to Baykal..Anyway I am happy about our government..Try to go Blacksea and see how roads there now..and go to East of Turkey and listen them..I was thinking to go to East of Turkey for army obligation but I do not want now after seeing ideas you and some people of like you..Why I will defend my country?Because of these people?
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how you know that i voted Baykal? your thoughts are such a nonsense...
you say my country but then you say i wont defend it becoz i live here?
for how many years those coastal road is under construction do you know that? maybe more than ten years if they finished it that doesnt mean that they work good... and we will see what will happen those roads when winter comes...
and about Sezer i think it was enough for him to be elected as president as he was the head of the independent courts once... but i dont support all of his actions too..
my friend you cant support a party or person like you support steven gerard... you should look what they are doing... anyway... we will see...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:37 pm |
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Ops here comes Ciko 
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:46 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Lifemate: Quoting MarioninTurkey: 2 hours ago President Gül entered Çankaya Köşkü (the Presidential mansion in Çankaya, Ankara).
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He deserved this..We love you Abdullah Gul... |
i just wonder what he did to deserve this?
can you give me a few examples for that? |
for example he was the most successful foreign minister. he made a very good relations with EU.and also he was prime minister for a few months..and he is known all over the world . and also he was minister of state in 96-97. and also he worked for Islam Development Bank which is one of the most important foundation of the world. do you expect a new Ataturk? or a prophet? i wonder what a president candidate should be like..
and i wonder what Sezer or former presidents deserved to be president? can yu tell me? for example what demirel did? what Sunay, Evren, Gürsel did?
i am not biased..i used to like Sezer too. He was one of the most democratic presidents of Turkey Republic. and he also deserved to be president. they both are well educated and experienced enough.
now Let me eat!! i am starving
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 10:48 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Ops here comes Ciko |
Dont be afraid.. i am in possitve mood today i wont argue with anyone ( probably )
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:02 pm |
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Quoting ciko:
for example he was the most successful foreign minister. he made a very good relations with EU.and also he was prime minister for a few months..and he is known all over the world . and also he was minister of state in 96-97. and also he worked for Islam Development Bank which is one of the most important foundation of the world. do you expect a new Ataturk? or a prophet? i wonder what a president candidate should be like..
and i wonder what Sezer or former presidents deserved to be president? can yu tell me? for example what demirel did? what Sunay, Evren, Gürsel did?
i am not biased..i used to like Sezer too. He was one of the most democratic presidents of Turkey Republic. and he also deserved to be president. they both are well educated and experienced enough.
now Let me eat!! i am starving |
good relations with EU?
thats why i ran all around istanbul actually turkey for visa to Austria? is it good relations to say Yes every demand of EU? nooo thats not politics...
what does it matter if he is well known or not?
and do you know there was a court about him about swindling
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:13 pm |
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Tebrikler to Turkey for Gül's victory and further victories and progress 
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:14 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting ciko:
for example he was the most successful foreign minister. he made a very good relations with EU.and also he was prime minister for a few months..and he is known all over the world . and also he was minister of state in 96-97. and also he worked for Islam Development Bank which is one of the most important foundation of the world. do you expect a new Ataturk? or a prophet? i wonder what a president candidate should be like..
and i wonder what Sezer or former presidents deserved to be president? can yu tell me? for example what demirel did? what Sunay, Evren, Gürsel did?
i am not biased..i used to like Sezer too. He was one of the most democratic presidents of Turkey Republic. and he also deserved to be president. they both are well educated and experienced enough.
now Let me eat!! i am starving |
good relations with EU?
thats why i ran all around istanbul actually turkey for visa to Austria? is it good relations to say Yes every demand of EU? nooo thats not politics...
what does it matter if he is well known or not?
and do you know there was a court about him about swindling |
your needing visa is not about relations with EU..to request visa is not for only turks..if you are out of EU you cant get in without visa. i meant something much deeper than visa by relations..i mean he took very important steps to become a member of EU..i mean deliberation with EU..
whatever..i just answered your question and i know he was a court..do you know the most famous novelist of Turkey was in a court too? you could be in a court too for some resons..but you know it doesnt mean you are guilty..
and you answer my question please..it s your turn. what former presidents did to be a president?..if you have an answer..i am here and waiting.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:17 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris:
no thats not the reason actually meltem... they are too capitalist... they love money more than what their religion believe me... |
I know, it's another story.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:17 pm |
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Quoting ciko:
for example he was the most successful foreign minister. he made a very good relations with EU.and also he was prime minister for a few months..and he is known all over the world . and also he was minister of state in 96-97. and also he worked for Islam Development Bank which is one of the most important foundation of the world. do you expect a new Ataturk? or a prophet? i wonder what a president candidate should be like..
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Strange. I thought he is the worst ever. if it is success to say yes to everyhing then he is successful.
You should know how to say no sometimes.
He doesn't deserve to be a president. I don't like him. Maybe I am biased. Anyway.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:18 pm |
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The only channel i can receive now is TRT İnt on hotbird,i thought to open and watch any program about the new president,his history,his background,anything about him,but all is there is a program about Nepal !
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TRT isnt a Turkish channel ?They dont know a new president is in town ?!!!
Doesnt TRT live Türkiye'de ? Grrrrrrrr
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:21 pm |
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There is some good info here Canli - plus a link to his profile 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6966216.stm
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:22 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: The only channel i can receive now is TRT İnt on hotbird,i thought to open and watch any program about the new president,his history,his background,anything about him,but all is there is a program about Nepal !
Now ?!!
TRT isnt a Turkish channel ?They dont know a new president is in town ?!!!
Doesnt TRT live Türkiye'de ? Grrrrrrrr |
something wrong
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:24 pm |
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Quoting ciko:
your needing visa is not about relations with EU..to request visa is not for only turks..if you are out of EU you cant get in without visa. i meant something much deeper than visa by relations..i mean he took very important steps to become a member of EU..i mean deliberation with EU..
whatever..i just answered your question and i know he was a court..do you know the most famous novelist of Turkey was in a court too? you could be in a court too for some resons..but you know it doesnt mean you are guilty..
and you answer my question please..it s your turn. what former presidents did to be a president?..if you have an answer..i am here and waiting. |
oh come on if they were good about the relations with our beloved EU, they could make it us enter or they could make us known as somehow member to that... my saying about visa is simply because of that... then things would be much more easier...
and how can you compare the court of Orhan Pamuk and that swingling, it is strange... and also being a good known writer doesnt mean that he can talk about anything everywhere... everybody should do their own business... so where is Orhan Pamuk now? thats another story... and he was found guilty my friend... he was sentenced to pay that money back...
he can talk very good... he can have very good english... but that doesnt mean that he is working good!
a president for me? if he is equal and doing his job very well... than there is no problem for me... i have told before his wife even can pose with bikini... but i look for work... they have done nothing... and they wont do anything...
my friends girlfriends father is a very good friend of our beloved president Erdogan... and guess what... nearly all TOKI constructions is being made by him... what a coincidence huh?...
wake up man... wake up... i am a son of a retired police officer... we didnt earn anything for the rest five years... just the gang of Tayyip earns... no one else...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:25 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting SuiGeneris:
no thats not the reason actually meltem... they are too capitalist... they love money more than what their religion believe me... |
I know, it's another story. |
you all know everything i admire you! you knoq what is more holy for them..if they are too capitalist...everything i wonder if god send you such informations! funny guys
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:25 pm |
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Thx Canım
You know something , he is so brave
And so she is .
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:27 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: ... and also being a good known writer doesnt mean that he can talk about anything everywhere..... |
OMG! Do you really believe in censorship?! A "good writer", or anyone IN THE WORLD, should be able to talk about anything, anywhere!
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:28 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm:
I know, it's another story. |
you all know everything i admire you! you knoq what is more holy for them..if they are too capitalist...everything i wonder if god send you such informations! funny guys |
It's just because I'm concerned about things going on in my country and in the world and I try not to be blind as much as possible. If you cannot see somethings which are indeed very evident, it's your ignorance. I just use the brain and eyes and ears that God has given to me.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:30 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting ciko:
your needing visa is not about relations with EU..to request visa is not for only turks..if you are out of EU you cant get in without visa. i meant something much deeper than visa by relations..i mean he took very important steps to become a member of EU..i mean deliberation with EU..
whatever..i just answered your question and i know he was a court..do you know the most famous novelist of Turkey was in a court too? you could be in a court too for some resons..but you know it doesnt mean you are guilty..
and you answer my question please..it s your turn. what former presidents did to be a president?..if you have an answer..i am here and waiting. |
wake up man... wake up... i am a son of a retired police officer... we didnt earn anything for the rest five years... just the gang of Tayyip earns... no one else... |
you wake up man..i have been working since i was 7 ( for 20 years ) and i can say i am rich enough now you have to learn how to earn money
and you still didnt asnwer my question..what former presidents did to deserve to be president? you sounded like you know all turkish History when you asked it to Lifemate ..waiting
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:31 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: ... and also being a good known writer doesnt mean that he can talk about anything everywhere..... |
OMG! Do you really believe in censorship?! A "good writer", or anyone IN THE WORLD, should be able to talk about anything, anywhere! |
this is not cencorship... he write it in his books... but its not his business to make announces or whatever... and when there was whole world focused on this topic...
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:32 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: ... and also being a good known writer doesnt mean that he can talk about anything everywhere..... |
OMG! Do you really believe in censorship?! A "good writer", or anyone IN THE WORLD, should be able to talk about anything, anywhere! |
this is not cencorship... he write it in his books... but its not his business to make announces or whatever... and when there was whole world focused on this topic... |
Well you can dress it up in as many ways as you like but it IS censorship!
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:33 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: ... and also being a good known writer doesnt mean that he can talk about anything everywhere..... |
OMG! Do you really believe in censorship?! A "good writer", or anyone IN THE WORLD, should be able to talk about anything, anywhere! |
no no no ..they can not talk about anything if it is against to the ideology of the state..
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:35 pm |
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Quoting CANLI:
Thx Canım
You know something , he is so brave
And so she is . |
CANLI, dont say that, then your turn come , and they will ask you , how you know him , he is so brave ?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:38 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm:
I know, it's another story. |
you all know everything i admire you! you knoq what is more holy for them..if they are too capitalist...everything i wonder if god send you such informations! funny guys |
It's just because I'm concerned about things going on in my country and in the world and I try not to be blind as much as possible. If you cannot see somethings which are indeed very evident, it's your ignorance. I just use the brain and eyes and ears that God has given to me. |
then.. 47 % of these people are not concerned about things going on our country. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor stupid turks..they are such poor blind people that they cant use their eyes and brains..but mltm from france can use her ears, eyes and brain and can see what is good for our country..forgive our ignorence mltm
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:39 pm |
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Quoting elham: Quoting CANLI:
Thx Canım
You know something , he is so brave
And so she is . |
CANLI, dont say that, then your turn come , and they will ask you , how you know him , he is so brave ? |
Hahahaha! Run Canli Run!
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:40 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SuiGeneris: ... and also being a good known writer doesnt mean that he can talk about anything everywhere..... |
OMG! Do you really believe in censorship?! A "good writer", or anyone IN THE WORLD, should be able to talk about anything, anywhere! |
this is not cencorship... he write it in his books... but its not his business to make announces or whatever... and when there was whole world focused on this topic... |
Well you can dress it up in as many ways as you like but it IS censorship! |
ok but when he says something he should tell about with its every details... he cant leave the party with blowing a wind everywhere
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:40 pm |
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There are more dollar billionaires in turkey than in japan. The gap between rich and poor is increasing rapidly. most of the workers get 450 YTL a month(£18 whereas big multinational companies don't even pay taxes.They say they are against the USA imperialism, but there is still an american base in Turkey( in adana). Education is biased. Democracy is biased. People are biased because of the education. Most kids are learning subjects with-out comprehending. And we expect these people to vote. I m telling every one now, that AKP will not lift %10 election barrier, and they will claim that they are democratic. I would call this aristocracy because if you do what big companies tell you, the media supports you and thanks to the herd instinct, this is the result. I can go on, but these are some of the reasons to why i don't like Mr Gul and his saz arkadaslari
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:40 pm |
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Quoting elham: Quoting CANLI:
Thx Canım
You know something , he is so brave
And so she is . |
CANLI, dont say that, then your turn come , and they will ask you , how you know him , he is so brave ? |
lol,well,they wont ask me that question because its OBVİOUS
The man didnt start yet been attacked,what do you want more than this ?
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:47 pm |
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Well..it certainly livened up an otherwise DULL day on TC
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:56 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm: Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm:
I know, it's another story. |
you all know everything i admire you! you knoq what is more holy for them..if they are too capitalist...everything i wonder if god send you such informations! funny guys |
It's just because I'm concerned about things going on in my country and in the world and I try not to be blind as much as possible. If you cannot see somethings which are indeed very evident, it's your ignorance. I just use the brain and eyes and ears that God has given to me. |
then.. 47 % of these people are not concerned about things going on our country. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor stupid turks..they are such poor blind people that they cant use their eyes and brains..but mltm from france can use her ears, eyes and brain and can see what is good for our country..forgive our ignorence mltm |
Offf, you really don't know how to debate. I can very well debate with the level you do and I can enjoy it as well, but I'm really preparing my bags for tomorrow to FRANCE. You can very well be a Turk in France as well.
You can get your news wherever you are and then the important is what you understand from what you read how deeply you can see things, what you're concerned of (fulling your pocket or trying to leave a better planet for your children, how you love your country and flag) and it also depends on your ideology (and I really wonder about yours), on the level of your education, on the size of your brain etc, there're a lot of factors you see.
We can talk about (and we have talked about it a lot I think) on a sociological perspective why they got 47% votes, for sure not now.
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28 Aug 2007 Tue 11:57 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting ciko:
you must be also be angry in the public offices while waiting on the tails....
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I think you meant queues |
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 12:23 am |
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Turkey argued if Abdullah Gul can be president or not for more than 6 months..Why?Is that our habit?actually no..i guess noone knew about Ahmet Necdet Sezer before "he was dictated to us" as a president..
So whats the metter now?
In order that Abdullah Gul doesnt come from the roots of "status quo"; militarial and civil bureaucracy, that has a huge power to effect our choices, doesnt want to accept "anyone out of them" doing good.And they hugely effect our ideas with a lot of ways to create public press to legalise and dictate their ideas.
However Abdullah Gul proofed that he is a successful politician who deserves to be our president..
I understand the people who are not happy about his precidency.but i am sure they will also admire his success as a president after sometime pass..
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 01:11 am |
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I'm against everthing,everyone,The World.I hate flags of any sort,I hate capitalism,communism,republicisim,(and anything with 'isim' at the end of it)and politics,religion.I hate name dropping,political stances,mooting about Political/legal/social situations within countries that i'm not even in, nor can do anything about,backgrounds of 'so called' social writers,football,dictators,preachers,islamists,jewists,christianists(do these words exist?)anything to do with any countries past/present/future.
I just love BEING here and now
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 04:22 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting KeithL: well, he's not President, nor wil he be....
That would be impossible. |
Want to eat your words Keith? |
get the gallows ready...
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 11:23 am |
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Quoting mylo: I'm against everthing,everyone,The World.I hate flags of any sort,I hate capitalism,communism,republicisim,(and anything with 'isim' at the end of it)and politics,religion.I hate name dropping,political stances,mooting about Political/legal/social situations within countries that i'm not even in, nor can do anything about,backgrounds of 'so called' social writers,football,dictators,preachers,islamists,jewists,christianists(do these words exist?)anything to do with any countries past/present/future.
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How on earth can you say you "hate politics"? You are just happy to sit there being happy? You whole happiness (even on your being "here and now") DEPENDS on politics. 
Ouh your post made me so angry Mylo!!! Even if I see it as a “joke†post, I am sure there are elements of truth in it. What a lazy “me†society we have become, where people don’t even both to vote anymore.
You take so much for granted – your basic human rights, equality, democracy – yet you are probably the first to moan about government decisions or your quality of life. You say you “hate politics†but I am sure you discuss politics hundreds of times a day without even knowing it.
Anyway, if you really hate all the above ("including anything to do with any countries past/present/future") what on earth are you doing on this website?
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 11:28 am |
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Quoting mylo: I'm against... anything with 'isim' at the end of it) |
I have a good one for you....APATHISM!
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 12:24 pm |
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a new politcal term starting on our great country,and things will be more democratical,more secualr,more productive and more understanding then ever...
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 01:25 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: a new politcal term starting on our great country,and things will be more democratical,more secualr,more productive and more understanding then ever... |
inşallah...
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 05:00 pm |
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here is Elif Safak's wonderful article!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6967456.stm
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 05:27 pm |
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1) he had an succesful period of some presidence..
2) he ie now our president
3) he never supported any islamic goverment. at that time he was objected to necmettin erbakan.. (there in more reasons)
4) i dont support military regime coz if we manage ourselves with democracy there cant be any armies speech.. Can u think that England goes to election coz of military decleration? This is impossible but İn turkey it is possible.. i's like to be managed by democracy not military rules..
5) i still believe that turkey will be more democratic,the goverment would manage based on ppl not itself, and also supprting EU memberhsip...
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 05:33 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm: Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm:
I know, it's another story. |
you all know everything i admire you! you knoq what is more holy for them..if they are too capitalist...everything i wonder if god send you such informations! funny guys |
It's just because I'm concerned about things going on in my country and in the world and I try not to be blind as much as possible. If you cannot see somethings which are indeed very evident, it's your ignorance. I just use the brain and eyes and ears that God has given to me. |
then.. 47 % of these people are not concerned about things going on our country. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor stupid turks..they are such poor blind people that they cant use their eyes and brains..but mltm from france can use her ears, eyes and brain and can see what is good for our country..forgive our ignorence mltm |
call urself as a stupid.. u cant isult ppl just coz of their independent choice..
u r blind coz u dont respect the result of democratic election..
u dont want to managed by erdogan or gul coz u loose ur armchair in ankara and the normal ppl ( farmer, middle social ppl) and they associate the management of turkey.. so this is not what u want..
that means u dont like democracy...
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 05:55 pm |
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Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm: Quoting ciko: Quoting mltm:
I know, it's another story. |
you all know everything i admire you! you knoq what is more holy for them..if they are too capitalist...everything i wonder if god send you such informations! funny guys |
It's just because I'm concerned about things going on in my country and in the world and I try not to be blind as much as possible. If you cannot see somethings which are indeed very evident, it's your ignorance. I just use the brain and eyes and ears that God has given to me. |
then.. 47 % of these people are not concerned about things going on our country. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor stupid turks..they are such poor blind people that they cant use their eyes and brains..but mltm from france can use her ears, eyes and brain and can see what is good for our country..forgive our ignorence mltm |
call urself as a stupid.. u cant isult ppl just coz of their independent choice..
u r blind coz u dont respect the result of democratic election..
u dont want to managed by erdogan or gul coz u loose ur armchair in ankara and the normal ppl ( farmer, middle social ppl) and they associate the management of turkey.. so this is not what u want..
that means u dont like democracy... |
calm down duskahvesi i was just being sarcastic to mltm. you will see i agree with you if you bother to read my other posts.. you owe me an apology now
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29 Aug 2007 Wed 06:00 pm |
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Turkey having one of most stabilized economical and political term since a few years,but some elitists in a big worry about the lost their personnels in the important points of goverment,so they playing dirty political games for just selfish aims...
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