Quoting Elisabeth:

I am sure that you don't mean "every" foreign woman and "every" Turkish man. I think that this is the behavior of some men who work on resorts and some vacationers who go to these resorts. I don't think it is fair to judge the entire male population of Turkey and all female foreigners by the translation requests and situations on a website. It seems very unfair. But then again, I can only speak thru my own experiences and all the wonderful people I have met since I have known my husband (who is Turkish).

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Quoting xkirstyx:

Quoting femme_fatal:

kafesti kus
thank you

but they wont hear you
they will understand you later, not now.

Quoting Elisabeth:

How can you go thru life and be so guarded? Of course there is always a chance of being hurt when you fall in love. But I would venture to say this happens everywhere under all kinds of different circumstances.

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Quoting Elisabeth:

How can you go thru life and be so guarded? Of course there is always a chance of being hurt when you fall in love. But I would venture to say this happens everywhere under all kinds of different circumstances.

Quoting Elisabeth:

OMG guys from all over the world are conspiring!! How funny!

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Of course he loves her he says but it is not an obstacle for him to have virtual contacts with others telling them they are the most beautiful he has ever seen.He is not from holiday resort,in the eyes of society he is a decent family man!
so what is the matter???lack of self esteem in case of some men?low self esteem or just desire for some adventure?or perhaps Sultan's attitude?

Quoting femme_fatal:

and i didnt know she was polish

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Leelu:

Now that is a question I would love to hear answered by a male!! Or for that matter anyone that understands it. I read that and thought .. hmmm .. what is it with men that they can do that yet contend they love their wives. doesn't make a lot of sense to me ..

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Ok Catwoman, you seem determined to minimalize my feelings and opinions, I never said anything about it being normal to be cheated on. I am certainly not being defensive I am just stating my opinion since it is posted on a public forum. I am not saying anything so different from you and I was trying to point out that everyone must be cautious everywhere. I think because this is a turkish language website, we focus on Turkey of course, but I was trying to say this could happen anywhere.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

What a delicious thread!
Wish I had more time to linger here but, alas, I am busy filing for divorce against Dudu

kafesteki kus, like Femme said..they won't hear you, no matter how much you shout, but its a great topic

Quoting Elisabeth:

That damn dudu! Take him for everything! (Everything you bought him)

Quoting AEnigma III:

What a delicious thread!
Wish I had more time to linger here but, alas, I am busy filing for divorce against Dudu

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Quoting Kazantzakis'in the world there is only one woman with so many different faces'and reading some threads here makes me think that we foreign women are so susceptible to the compliments paid by Turkish males.
Wake up...these are only compliments nothing else..so shallow without any deep meaning.
But unfortunately they get their targets and make women vulnerable and later make them suffer..exposing this suffering in more or less weeping posts!
I wonder if it is only naivety or desire to be one special in the world?just a queen for that one...but usually that one has more than one queen to worship in real or virtual life..

Quoting ciko:

wake up foreign women wake up..

Quoting cooldude:

So Ciko I guess that's why you have a girlfrıend to rob her blind yeah.....

Quoting ciko:

wake up foreign women wake up..All turkish men are pervert and bad and all we think about is to take your money..because we all are poor and we never work and we die for your money! WAKE UP!

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quote:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting femme_fatal:

i want money too, billions of them!
where can i get them?

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

We could pimp Dudu?

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting portokal:

Naguib Mahfouz... Thank you Serdar!

Quoting Serdar07:

Be careful and awaken from the mentality of Middle-Eastren men!
while East is man, power and to be dominating...

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting Serdar07:

Then there is a big question!
That the people of westren are responsible to answer..
please do and act to push your government and Armies to stop destroying our countries so that the people here not to think about escaping and leaving their countries! That a man not to think to use a forign girl to get visa or money to escape from the bad economy and social condition in his country!!!

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Serdar07:

Then there is a big question!
That the people of westren are responsible to answer..
please do and act to push your government and Armies to stop destroying our countries so that the people here not to think about escaping and leaving their countries! That a man not to think to use a forign girl to get visa or money to escape from the bad economy and social condition in his country!!!

Quoting Serdar07:

Then there is a big question!
That the people of westren are responsible to answer..
please do and act to push your government and Armies to stop destroying our countries so that the people here not to think about escaping and leaving their countries! That a man not to think to use a forign girl to get visa or money to escape from the bad economy and social condition in his country!!!

Quoting portokal:

Quoting ciko:

wake up foreign women wake up..All turkish men are pervert and bad and all we think about is to take your money..because we all are poor and we never work and we die for your money! WAKE UP!

Quoting Serdar07:

Then there is a big question!
That the people of westren are responsible to answer..
please do and act to push your government and Armies to stop destroying our countries so that the people here not to think about escaping and leaving their countries! That a man not to think to use a forign girl to get visa or money to escape from the bad economy and social condition in his country!!!

Quote:

Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: Ciko!!!!! Where the hell have you been? I have been out of Istanbul for some work but i am back

Quoting femme_fatal:

why do eastern people blame the west for their poverty, for all the evil and unhappiness?
if a bomb blows up in the middle eastern city, it is the west to be blame!
if a bomb blows up in NY it is again the west is responsible!
interestin way of thinking!

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

u dont have to use this form..just use words like ''kisses'',''love '' etc as femme said

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Leelu: Quoting AEnigma III: We could pimp Dudu? do you think we would really get much money for Dudu?

Quoting Serdar07:

So we can restart thinking about the new history that began with September 11th who made that... The USA government did that... USA made those terroists starting from 1979 in Afganistan..

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Serdar07:

Dear Trudy wish you understand me more , Turkey has affected much by the war in Iraq,cause in past this country was depending on the oil that exported via Turkey and the economy of Turkey since 1990 harmed so much by the wars in this region,,, so when economy changed the social life will change as well... woman maybe one of the consequences.

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

only catwoman can threw me in to bag
don juan

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Serdar07:

cool you are my friend so away from seeing your children starving , that your neighbour kidnaped and the other one killed in moments...

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Lapinkulta: only catwoman can threw me in to bag don juan i dont throw anyone into anywhere to me everyone is precious, even tho they speak against me, even tho they speak things i really hate, sometimes i wish i thew them into the well i learnt to live with it. its interesting to know their opinions, you either agree with them or disagree or ignore totally, but you let them be, let them show, so to have discussions (to love or hate passionately) oh, i become very smart tonight it must be don juan's influence

Quoting ciko:

are you really femma_famal?

Quote:

Quote:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Lapinkulta: are you really femma_famal? ciko nediysin

Quoting Lapinkulta:

dont try it wont work

Quote:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Lapinkulta: are you really femma_famal? ciko nediysin

Quoting femme_fatal:

don juan
the lyrics seem familiar
i know shes a black singer
but i dont remember her name

Quoting ciko:

you said you love everybody even people against you blah blah i was shocked i could not believe it was you !!

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting Serdar07:

again to be not so far from kafesteki kus thread.
that social condition controled by all economy situation. I am not defending those cheaters and I am not calling for cheating women from western countries to get revenge, but instead I am saying that you girls from west take care and be careful because there are so many social problems here. And maybe you are the next victim of this conflict.

Quoting ciko:

it sounded male voice to me when i listened to her songs first

Quoting Serdar07:

again to be not so far from kafesteki kus thread.
that social condition contoled by all economy situation. I am not defending those cheaters and I am not calling for cheating women from western countries to get revenge, but instead I am saying that you girls from west take care and be careful because there so many social problems here. And maybe you are the next victim of this conflict.

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting thehandsom: Quoting Serdar07: again to be not so far from kafesteki kus thread. that social condition contoled by all economy situation. I am not defending those cheaters and I am not calling for cheating women from western countries to get revenge, but instead I am saying that you girls from west take care and be careful because there so many social problems here. And maybe you are the next victim of this conflict. Serdar, I must say you are a really really calm person. If I was an iraqi, another country would come into my country, remove my goverment by force, dismantle my army by force, try to erase my history, cause one million people got killed, cause 4 million people displaced, and knowing the fact that my country had nothing to do with 9/11 and knowing the fact that, that army is just in my country because of my oil, I would be very very upset to the every single idea which is supporting ideologically what is done to my country. Luckyly, I am not an Iraqi.

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting ciko: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting Serdar07: again to be not so far from kafesteki kus thread. that social condition contoled by all economy situation. I am not defending those cheaters and I am not calling for cheating women from western countries to get revenge, but instead I am saying that you girls from west take care and be careful because there so many social problems here. And maybe you are the next victim of this conflict. Serdar, I must say you are a really really calm person. If I was an iraqi, another country would come into my country, remove my goverment by force, dismantle my army by force, try to erase my history, cause one million people got killed, cause 4 million people displaced, and knowing the fact that my country had nothing to do with 9/11 and knowing the fact that, that army is just in my country because of my oil, I would be very very upset to the every single idea which is supporting ideologically what is done to my country. Luckyly, I am not an Iraqi. who knows..maybe you would be grateful to USA because they saved you from Saddam

Quoting thehandsom:

Luckyly, I am not an Iraqi.

Quoting thehandsom:

I will stop writing anything further.. dont want this beautiful subject turning to 'bashing bush'..
I do apologise my rude butting in.

Quoting thehandsom:

ha ha..
Of course they would say something like 'removing a dictator, bringing democrasy etc'. They would not say we are there for oil.. would they?
.But I would rather deal with my own dictator by myself. Thank you.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting elham:

Go back to the topic
turkish man have strong sleeping pill ,gave it to foreign wommen so they never wake up

Quoting AEnigma III:

Mr X67 - is that you?

Quoting Serdar07:

Time for sleeping now in poor Iraq... later wish I can continue friends , forgive if I can't reply you now...
You all be blessed by the power of love and peace everywhere on this planet... I love all the people!

Quoting CANLI:

Excuse me,but i dont really get it!
Who are we talking about here?

Quoting thehandsom:

Luckyly, I am not an Iraqi.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting CANLI:

İ guess those women are fooling themselves,and allow those men to fool them too.

Quoting portokal:

It takes two for a tango...

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting CANLI:

Actually we are not talking about that.
The thread title is 'foreign women wake up'
So we are talking about woman who are naive,and vulnerable.
And i dont think all women neither naive nor vulnerable.
Except of course for some personal stiuations.
So are all women who got to Türkiye are naive,and vulnerable ?
Men are men all over the world,if they are cheaters,they will try to cheat you no matter where are they,or where are you.
So,why not allowing them back home,and allowing them in Türkiye ?!

Quoting elham:

Quoting Badiabdancer74:

If someone really has no regard for another persons emotions and intends to take advantage of them, I'm not sure there is much the other person can do. Everyone can be fooled.

Quoting catwoman:

That the woman has to be suspicious on every step of the way, spy on him.... to make sure he's not a lier? It takes two to make a relationship but it may take only one to ruin it.

Quoting Badiabdancer74:

Everyone can be fooled. How you choose to live your life from then on is important, and what you choose to learn from it. I choose to try to keep my heart open but my mind very keen. Helping those who have been fooled learn something would be helpful. Being harsh and judgemental is hurtful.

Quoting portokal:

A woman has to choose carefully, my opinion. It is not about being suspicious, though. Maybe trust harder, and let facts proove the deepness of a relationship. And this is a mature attitude in life. It is necessary to see who are you just planning to live with. It is no need rushing into a marriage, unless you're shure it is a good long-term decision. And only if a longterm-relationship, than we can talk about a possible "ruining" by one of the persons involved.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting catwoman:

Canli - you are making it more complicated then it really is, it's like looking for excuses. The main problem is that most men you meet on a vacation in TR will lie to you just to have sex or get money from you - plain and simple. And the topic is - foreign women wake up and realize that!

We are not necessarily talking about naive and vulnerable women, but even if we were, the main complaint is that those men lie and they are often very good at it. There's no excuse for doing that! Or are you saying that if a woman can be cheated because she's naive, then it's ok to do that???? So if you are 'stronger', then it's ok to exploit the 'weaker'??? What does it mean "it takes two to tango" in this context? That the woman has to be suspicious on every step of the way, spy on him.... to make sure he's not a lier? It takes two to make a relationship but it may take only one to ruin it.

What does it mean 'men are men all over the world'? Men cheat in other countries, so don't single out turkish men? No dear, we will single out all those nationalities and in this particular web site we are concerned with turkish men. Men are also humans and they are perfectly capable of making the right choices.

Quoting catwoman:

I'm just judging the act of conscious lying to another person and cruelly taking advantage of her/his feelings for personal gain.

Quoting femme_fatal:

don juan
the lyrics seem familiar
i know shes a black singer
but i dont remember her name

Quoting ciko:

wake up foreign women wake up..All turkish men are pervert and bad and all we think about is to take your money..because we all are poor and we never work and we die for your money! WAKE UP!

Quoting kat007:

And he turned me down and said no. He said you should move to turkey. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can live there permanently all year round.

Quoting Elisabeth:

How can you go thru life and be so guarded? Of course there is always a chance of being hurt when you fall in love. But I would venture to say this happens everywhere under all kinds of different circumstances.

Quoting janissary:

"Suddenly
Life has new meaning to me
Theres beauty up above and things we never take notice of
You wake up and suddenly youre in love
Youre in love
Theres beauty up above and things we never take notice of
You wake up and suddenly youre in love"

Don Juan's brother

Quoting kafesteki kus:

when you are speaking about love do you mean Eros or Agape?It makes a bit difference...women usually search for Agape,the other one is a domain of men

Quoting AEnigma III:

Mr X67 - is that you?

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

but by the way,portokal it seems you do not know women at all...

Quoting kafesteki kus:

"I see when men love women. They give them but a little of their lives. But women when they love give everything."
Oscar Wilde
That is why I think it makes women passionate lovers...

Quoting portokal:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Oh how can you compare Stendhal to Wild...?Personally,I prefer Wild...more cynical and wiser.We all know about his preferences,it is not a secret anymore,but don't you think it made him know the women better?

Quoting kafesteki kus:

We all know about his preferences,it is not a secret anymore,but don't you think it made him know the women better?

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Anyway,I recommend Proust to you if you have plenty of time as Swanns story requires plenty of it

Quoting kafesteki kus:

As a portokal are you turuncu or yesil?

Quoting portokal:

As a trapped bird, are you a singing one or a parrot?

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Quoting teaschip1:

I hate to be the spoiler of this thread, but "NEWS FLASH" both women and men both LIE. I know alot of women who also cheat on their men. However, my observation is that men tend to think more with their _ _ c_s and women just want to be loved and taken care of.

Which brings me to a good question, why are Turkish women so faithful and honest? What happens in a marriage when the husband cheats on their wife?

Also, how in the world can foreign women believe they met their true love, soul mate at a resort for a week on a holiday.

Quoting kafesteki kus:

why?why Turkish women are so patient?so tolerant?..I wonder the same.

Quoting AlphaF:

About Turkish men and women

How a mare neighs has a lot to do with her stalion...

(Apache proverb)

Quoting AlphaF:

Dont be too rude to USA,
The will bring democracy to your country too....

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting AlphaF:

just tell me you are German...no more need be said..

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Trudy: Quoting AlphaF: Dont be too rude to USA, The will bring democracy to your country too.... Well, in fact they did. In 1945 together with (mostly) British and Canadian soldiers they freed my country from Hitlers nazi's. For that I'm greatful - my German is awful.... It doesn't mean that therefor I like everything the US does, that I think we need to be on our knees or that I'm a fan of the Bush adminstration. On the contrary, I have in many cases a lot of critical comments. But you just cannot say that they are guilty of every rotten thing/war that is going on in the East/other parts of the world. Two fighting? Two to blame.

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Im here


Don Juan

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Trudy:

He wants to be a democratic American owner of an oil well....

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Lapinkulta: Im here Don Juan How is your presence relevant to oil, USA and democracy? :-S

Quoting Elisabeth:

That damn dudu! Take him for everything! (Everything you bought him)

Quoting femme_fatal:

he just loves me

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Lapinkulta: Im here Don Juan How is your presence relevant to oil, USA and democracy? :-S

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Trudy: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Lapinkulta: Im here Don Juan How is your presence relevant to oil, USA and democracy? :-S He wants to be a democratic American owner of an oil well....

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Trudy: He wants to be a democratic American owner of an oil well.... Vay be How ambitious

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

cikooo nediysin???

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lapinkulta:

Lapin-rabbit is one of the words who describe me well

hahah,but Im not hunter...