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foreign women wake up!!!
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 01:24 am |
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I am pretty skeptical about love, having been fooled by American men. The first part of love happens when you meet someone and doesn't involve words as much as nonverbal communication (and scientists say phermones). Where it goes from there involves the brain for sure. Meeting my then Turkish boyfriend's parents almost a year ago showed me this isn't a joke for him. His concerted effort at communication (and mine)and the sadness at my leaving, yet support and strength. There are many things that let me know it is genuine, if it isn't, he is the best actor I have ever met. (God forbid!) If someone really has no regard for another persons emotions and intends to take advantage of them, I'm not sure there is much the other person can do. Everyone can be fooled. How you choose to live your life from then on is important, and what you choose to learn from it. I choose to try to keep my heart open but my mind very keen. Helping those who have been fooled learn something would be helpful. Being harsh and judgemental is hurtful.
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 01:30 am |
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Quoting Badiabdancer74: If someone really has no regard for another persons emotions and intends to take advantage of them, I'm not sure there is much the other person can do. Everyone can be fooled. |
Exactly!
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 01:32 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
That the woman has to be suspicious on every step of the way, spy on him.... to make sure he's not a lier? It takes two to make a relationship but it may take only one to ruin it.
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A woman has to choose carefully, my opinion. It is not about being suspicious, though. Maybe trust harder, and let facts proove the deepness of a relationship. And this is a mature attitude in life. It is necessary to see who are you just planning to live with. It is no need rushing into a marriage, unless you're shure it is a good long-term decision. And only if a longterm-relationship, than we can talk about a possible "ruining" by one of the persons involved.
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 01:37 am |
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Quoting Badiabdancer74:
Everyone can be fooled. How you choose to live your life from then on is important, and what you choose to learn from it. I choose to try to keep my heart open but my mind very keen. Helping those who have been fooled learn something would be helpful. Being harsh and judgemental is hurtful. |
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 01:42 am |
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Quoting portokal: A woman has to choose carefully, my opinion. It is not about being suspicious, though. Maybe trust harder, and let facts proove the deepness of a relationship. And this is a mature attitude in life. It is necessary to see who are you just planning to live with. It is no need rushing into a marriage, unless you're shure it is a good long-term decision. And only if a longterm-relationship, than we can talk about a possible "ruining" by one of the persons involved. |
Of course this is true, I'm not denying that. I'm just judging the act of conscious lying to another person and cruelly taking advantage of her/his feelings for personal gain.
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 01:51 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting portokal: A woman has to choose carefully, my opinion. It is not about being suspicious, though. Maybe trust harder, and let facts proove the deepness of a relationship. And this is a mature attitude in life. It is necessary to see who are you just planning to live with. It is no need rushing into a marriage, unless you're shure it is a good long-term decision. And only if a longterm-relationship, than we can talk about a possible "ruining" by one of the persons involved. |
Of course this is true, I'm not denying that. I'm just judging the act of conscious lying to another person and cruelly taking advantage of her/his feelings for personal gain. |
I agree...
I must admit that i even slightly despise this kind of lying.
That is why i think that helping others to spot this kind of cheatings is a very efficient way to fight cheaters, in the meantime. It is very unlikely that a conscious lier, a cheater will change attitude just by being told this is not a nice thing he does.
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 02:02 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
Canli - you are making it more complicated then it really is, it's like looking for excuses. The main problem is that most men you meet on a vacation in TR will lie to you just to have sex or get money from you - plain and simple. And the topic is - foreign women wake up and realize that!
We are not necessarily talking about naive and vulnerable women, but even if we were, the main complaint is that those men lie and they are often very good at it. There's no excuse for doing that! Or are you saying that if a woman can be cheated because she's naive, then it's ok to do that???? So if you are 'stronger', then it's ok to exploit the 'weaker'??? What does it mean "it takes two to tango" in this context? That the woman has to be suspicious on every step of the way, spy on him.... to make sure he's not a lier? It takes two to make a relationship but it may take only one to ruin it.
What does it mean 'men are men all over the world'? Men cheat in other countries, so don't single out turkish men? No dear, we will single out all those nationalities and in this particular web site we are concerned with turkish men. Men are also humans and they are perfectly capable of making the right choices. |
catwoman what excuses that am i looking for ?
Did i said,its ok for men to cheat ?!
İ thought what i am saying is very much clear !
You are just blaming men here 'and im not defending those who lies' but how about women ?!
They allowed it !
They believed it !
Ok you say most men whom you meet on a vacation in TR will lie to you just to have sex or get money from you.
So why would anyone give money,or have sex with someone they dont even understand what do they say ?!
Did i say '' if a woman can be cheated because she's naive, then it's ok to do that???? ''
İ thought i said,i dont believe women can be THAT naive,and i believe i said,if they are cheated that way,then because they allowed it !
And im not talking about stiuations who they can have good communications there,im too talking about the men at the resorts who say İ love you when they see you.
Because i dont really understand how would i believe someone who would say he loves me,and i cant know him,because i dont understand him,neither does he!
So,if i believed it,then im fooling myself yes.
İ agree with you here ''It takes two to make a relationship but it may take only one to ruin it''
Yes,it takes two to build a relationship,but what kind of relationship are we talking about ?
What does relationship means ?
Can you have relationship with someone you dont even know ?!
Well,'men are men all over the world'can means that too.
But i meant,women can deal with men in their own countries,and men in Türkiye are men too,they are not aliens !
So,they can deal with them too same way the do back home !
İ dont understand you catwoman,are you saying because we are in TC which is a site concerned with turkish so we cant talk about other nationalities and compair them with Turkish men ?
So we assume what Turkish men do,or behave is unique and we are not allowed to say its happening in other countries ?!
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 02:07 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
I'm just judging the act of conscious lying to another person and cruelly taking advantage of her/his feelings for personal gain. |
+1
Dishonesty and weakness among other terms i could think of !
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 02:15 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: don juan
the lyrics seem familiar
i know shes a black singer
but  i dont remember her name |
Tracy Chapman - Fast Car!!
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 02:19 am |
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Speaking of Cheaters....http://www.cheaters.com I don't think these people do it on purpose, it's a lack of self control and moral strength....it's sort of like when people overeat and get fat....they can't help themselves.
It's best to protect yourself....and it it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Also the emotional stress and with the increase of STDs, be careful! Be very careful. Love is a dangerous game to not take seriously.
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05 Oct 2007 Fri 05:16 am |
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Quoting ciko: wake up foreign women wake up..All turkish men are pervert and bad and all we think about is to take your money..because we all are poor and we never work and we die for your money! WAKE UP!  |
Ciko ROFL.... eglenceli. I actually met 2 turks that were somewhat rich. Hehehehe.... I guess in that case I'm poorer than them. I should take their money.  haha
You might be right about the pervert and bad part hehehe. Saka!!!!
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