Turkey |
|
|
|
Turkish State Brothels
|
30. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 01:18 am |
aenigma
this is all LIE, NOT TRUE!
|
|
31. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 01:18 am |
Quoting AlphaF: There are plenty of free lance prostitutes working illegaly here too...That is called liberal economy and free enterprise... |
Male and female prostitutes? Or just female?
|
|
32. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 01:19 am |
Quoting AlphaF: No, absolutely not....We already have them in sufficient numbers...no future in this field for foreign ladies... |
yeah
all the foreign ladies are prostitutes,
or all the prostitutes in turkey are foreign ladies!
a good point ! isnt it?
|
|
33. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 02:15 am |
It is true that there are many prostitutes in Turkey and not only Turkish ones but there are also Russian, Moldovian, Romanian and Ukrainian prostitutes too. Prostitiution is a very profitable business; they earn a lot and spend a lot. If a prostitute is doing business in a better part of the city she often drives a car much more expensive than most and lives in an apartment larger and better than most.
There is also a strong gay community in my country. I do have some gay friends and sometimes I accompany them when they go to gay bars. (They appreciate that so much.) They have very sophisticated ways to communicate with one another as most of them constantly change partners.
A favourite gathering place for gays in Istanbul is Neo Bar. They are very active. They organize many events to attract the gay population of the city making it possible for them to get to know one another and stand together.
I have neither paid for sex nor am I thinking of but I believe this sector does help society in some ways. As long as legal and healthy and done voluntarily I see nothing wrong in that.
|
|
34. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 02:30 am |
Quoting vineyards: It is true that there are many prostitutes in Turkey and not only Turkish ones but there are also Russian, Moldovian, Romanian and Ukrainian prostitutes too. Prostitiution is a very profitable business; they earn a lot and spend a lot. If a prostitute is doing business in a better part of the city she often drives a car much more expensive than most and lives in an apartment larger and better than most.
There is also a strong gay community in my country. I do have some gay friends and sometimes I accompany them when they go to gay bars. (They appreciate that so much.) They have very sophisticated ways to communicate with one another as most of them constantly change partners.
A favourite gathering place for gays in Istanbul is Neo Bar. They are very active. They organize many events to attract the gay population of the city making it possible for them to get to know one another and stand together.
I have neither paid for sex nor am I thinking of but I believe this sector does help society in some ways. As long as legal and healthy and done voluntarily I see nothing wrong in that.
|
To me it's sad because how do you explain to your future spouse you were with prostitue at past? (of course I know the answer will most likely be that what man would say it), but still...If I ever found out that a man I was with was with a prostitue I would lose all respect...How do the women in Turkey feel about this? I'm sure the men don't care, but what of the women? I know that also it is known that fathers , brother and friends, will take thier virgin son/brother/friend to prostitue sometimes to let him become a "man" how common is that? Really, it's not good to have it legal or illigal...catch 22
|
|
35. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 02:59 am |
If you are married you should not cheat your wife whether it be with a prostitute or with some other woman.
Prostitution is a reality of life. They have always existed and they have a right to do so. Just imagine how many prostitutes there are in the world and what they would do if their profession were banned.
Fire arms are also freely available to those wishing to have one. Are all gun owners murderers? (Although I am in favour of banning fire arms, I can't say they all are).
Nevertheless, there are certain points in how Turks approach sexuality that can be criticized. Young boys are usually pushed by an older friend or sometimes (though rare) by a family member to go and have their first experience in a brothel. For example, that never happened to me. It is not an iron clad rule. This is probably more common in poorer quarters where people have little chance to have any sort of relationship with the other sex. Is it wrong? Yes, it is wrong is inseparable from a certain class of corruption that is present in all societies.
Here is a question to you: what do you think about the demonizing of prostitutes and gays? Do you approve of their being excommunicated from society? There are many prostitutes with excellent personalities and much more power to endure the hardships of life compared to an average person. If they work for a brothel, they pay their tax to the last penny. Why should they be regarded just like extra terrestrials? We should at least greet them in the street and support them to help them hold a place in society.
|
|
36. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 03:57 am |
I live in north America, but i was born in the ukraine. I go bach there very couple of years. i watch russian tv. Where i come from it is widely known that there are lots of russian, ukrainian prostitutes in Turkey. Some of these go there willingly and knowingly. But most of the girls there get tricked. They are hired to work in hotels, in restaurants, as receptionists. But upon arrival, their paperwork, passports are taken away. There is no way to get back, neother is there money to do so. They are working girls and there is nowhere to go and no where to hide. There is shows about this all the time and is widely known, but girls go there to make money, thinking their contract is different, or just not knowing iwhat is waiting for them. these are not the prostitutes that drive the nice cars, and own nice appartments.
|
|
37. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 05:27 am |
It is not voluntary prostitution. Therefore it is not legal in the first place. Even to know their individual stories and to offer them a way out you need to communicate to them. I am not singing praises for prostitutes. I am just trying to draw your attention to a multi facated drama they are going through. All that you have so far mentioned is also a result of the lack of sympathy and communication between them and society.
|
|
38. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 07:36 am |
Quoting Seraph: Quoting vineyards: It is true that there are many prostitutes in Turkey and not only Turkish ones but there are also Russian, Moldovian, Romanian and Ukrainian prostitutes too. Prostitiution is a very profitable business; they earn a lot and spend a lot. If a prostitute is doing business in a better part of the city she often drives a car much more expensive than most and lives in an apartment larger and better than most.
There is also a strong gay community in my country. I do have some gay friends and sometimes I accompany them when they go to gay bars. (They appreciate that so much.) They have very sophisticated ways to communicate with one another as most of them constantly change partners.
A favourite gathering place for gays in Istanbul is Neo Bar. They are very active. They organize many events to attract the gay population of the city making it possible for them to get to know one another and stand together.
I have neither paid for sex nor am I thinking of but I believe this sector does help society in some ways. As long as legal and healthy and done voluntarily I see nothing wrong in that.
|
To me it's sad because how do you explain to your future spouse you were with prostitue at past? (of course I know the answer will most likely be that what man would say it), but still...If I ever found out that a man I was with was with a prostitue I would lose all respect...How do the women in Turkey feel about this? I'm sure the men don't care, but what of the women? I know that also it is known that fathers , brother and friends, will take thier virgin son/brother/friend to prostitue sometimes to let him become a "man" how common is that? Really, it's not good to have it legal or illigal...catch 22 |
Again I don't see the problem. Of course, when you are having a relationship you should be both loyal. A man with whom I have a relationship who goes to a prostitute will find his belongings in the garden, but the same will happen when he would have 'just a girlfriend / affair'. However, what he did before our relationship is not so important. I can't see the difference between a man who had several girlfriends (for fun, experience) or one who has been to a legal prostitute. If he would have chosen the service of a woman who was forced into this work, yes, that would make a difference for me, because I think that type of prostitution is the modern variant of slavery. I don't want to deal with that.
And Vineyards, I agree with you. It isn't something we all should praise, jobs must not be at the employment offices but when in free choice people pay their taxes, so why excommunicate them?
|
|
39. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 08:58 am |
Tamam Taman insanlar
(english)In the USA people who celebrate christmas say they are Christians. My wife and I had Turk Students as our guests in the USA. They want to visit a Mosque, but they only wanted to "drive by" and see it was there. Funny story, my wife say, lets go inside. SHE had to tell them to take there shoes off!
This kind religon(both christians and muslim) is harmless, more, not so much so.
My name is Italian and people assume I am Catholic. I am not Christian nor Muslim.
|
|
40. |
12 Nov 2007 Mon 12:01 pm |
Quoting vineyards: It is true that there are many prostitutes in Turkey and not only Turkish ones but there are also Russian, Moldovian, Romanian and Ukrainian prostitutes too. Prostitiution is a very profitable business; they earn a lot and spend a lot. If a prostitute is doing business in a better part of the city she often drives a car much more expensive than most and lives in an apartment larger and better than most.
There is also a strong gay community in my country. I do have some gay friends and sometimes I accompany them when they go to gay bars. (They appreciate that so much.) They have very sophisticated ways to communicate with one another as most of them constantly change partners. |
Yes I think most of europe has Eastern european prostitutes now - some willingly, some unwillingly. In fact I think Turkey has done more to reduce the unwilling ones than many other countries. However, there is a LOT of money still being made from eastern european sex slaves. A few men are very rich from it, and the girls are virtual prisoners.We had a wonderful drama/documentary broadcast recently about this subject in the UK. It was truly heartbreaking when you discover the facts.
You have surprised and delighted me with your attitude to gays Vineyards - however I think its a myth that they all want multiple casual partners .
|
|
|