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60.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 07:23 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

no, catwoman, we cant let the prostituion be legal and in any so called healthy forms.
it is a humilliation of a woman. where do you think porno come?
its no way right, to accept it normal, or then goodbye healthy society.


I would LOVE to abolish prostitution and make all porn disappear. I would be the first one to support that because I think that it hurts women incredibly.

You want a healthy society, but how? The only way is by allowing people to be free to do what they want to do (as long as it doesn't hurt anybody) and in that situation there will always be people who are willing to do anything for money. As much as I can't possibly grasp why anybody would ever do this kind of stuff...
It is impossible to eliminate evil from the world is what I'm saying. Prostitution is very bad, but by making it illegal, you're not making it disappear, but you're pushing it into the black market where women are treated million times worse.

61.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 07:59 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

no, catwoman, we cant let the prostituion be legal and in any so called healthy forms.
it is a humilliation of a woman. where do you think porno come?
its no way right, to accept it normal, or then goodbye healthy society.


I would LOVE to abolish prostitution and make all porn disappear. I would be the first one to support that because I think that it hurts women incredibly.

You want a healthy society, but how? The only way is by allowing people to be free to do what they want to do (as long as it doesn't hurt anybody) and in that situation there will always be people who are willing to do anything for money. As much as I can't possibly grasp why anybody would ever do this kind of stuff...
It is impossible to eliminate evil from the world is what I'm saying. Prostitution is very bad, but by making it illegal, you're not making it disappear, but you're pushing it into the black market where women are treated million times worse.



I hear what your saying, however because something is illegal to minimize the exposure & have it regulated we should make it legal? You believe this would control the violence? How do you feel about drugs? Should we legalize this as well?

62.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:03 pm

If we lived in an ideal world, I guess we wouldn't need them. However, this does exist and there is definately a need for them to be regulated and that these women be monitored in some way for health risks to the general public. I think legalizing them is a necessary evil. Even if you find somthing morally repugnant, ie prostitution, abortion, ect...that does not mean everyone will stop doing it. It is up to us as individuals to hold ourselves personally accountable for our own beliefs. It is the duty of government agencies (in this case the CDC - Center for Disease Control or Department of Health) to protect its people...sometimes from themselves.

63.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:17 pm

i think the only way minimising evil is to invite them to live up to morales, i.e. to give them good education, to support our justice systems, to care for each other.
i mean it will never be ideal, but loosening the morales wont solve the problem.

just compare the generations: look at todays children, they are growing up with no morales, and they are the disaster!
they can easily kill, because they feel so, they feel some people annoying them, they come with guns or knives to schools. we starting to put our feelings "maybe so" ideas above the morales. and resulting into tragedies.

64.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:31 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

i think the only way minimising evil is to invite them to live up to morales, i.e. to give them good education, to support our justice systems, to care for each other.
i mean it will never be ideal, but loosening the morales wont solve the problem.


I definitely think that improving the lives of women is one way to help out. If women had more economic advantages, were more independent, financially stable, educated, there would be significantly less of them willing to do something that is so degrading to them.

65.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:36 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

i think the only way minimising evil is to invite them to live up to morales, i.e. to give them good education, to support our justice systems, to care for each other.
i mean it will never be ideal, but loosening the morales wont solve the problem.


I definitely think that improving the lives of women is one way to help out. If women had more economic advantages, were more independent, financially stable, educated, there would be significantly less of them willing to do something that is so degrading to them.


oh, finally you ve got something that i agree with!
offffffff

66.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:41 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

i think the only way minimising evil is to invite them to live up to morales, i.e. to give them good education, to support our justice systems, to care for each other.
i mean it will never be ideal, but loosening the morales wont solve the problem.

just compare the generations: look at todays children, they are growing up with no morales, and they are the disaster!
they can easily kill, because they feel so, they feel some people annoying them, they come with guns or knives to schools. we starting to put our feelings "maybe so" ideas above the morales. and resulting into tragedies.



Point well taken Femme, but I think there is a saying that goes with this...the horse has already run out of the barn...what good will it do to close the door now?

67.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:45 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, finally you ve got something that i agree with!
offffffff


Why does that make you angry....?

68.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:48 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, finally you ve got something that i agree with!
offffffff


Why does that make you angry....?


Femme takes great pride in being a professional antagonist.

69.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:52 pm

Please understand me correct: I do NOT plea in favour of prostitution. And yes, if there is any kind of force in it, it is humiliating for women, then it should be forbidden and punished. However, if a woman herself choose to do this job, who are we with all our morality to say she is unmoral?

70.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:52 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, finally you ve got something that i agree with!
offffffff


Why does that make you angry....?


Femme takes great pride in being a professional antagonist.


correct
tho i would prefer "pleasure" instead of "pride" (remenber? i hate pride)

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