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Should Türkiye be ready to join European Union (EU) ?
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08 Dec 2007 Sat 08:53 pm |
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Turkish cultured and well-educated Public Union do not
embrace European Union (EU),they embrace civilization, like M.K.Atatürk...
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08 Dec 2007 Sat 09:40 pm |
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Well, for me, someone who had a living experiences on both continents, i can tell you for sure that we are not a one all the same culture, as well inside Europe cultural diferences are many, from one country to another.
So i don´t think Europe and America have same culture or values, as even within Europe it self each country has many cultural diferences and it´s own values.
Same apllies for Turkiye.
I unfortunally, as someone who loves to see and know other cultures and it´s people, i never had the experience of living in Turkiye, only visited, but liked so much that plan to return soon.
Culture, values... a country and it´s people for me can only be seen in one way: with respect. That´s what makes us all diferent and at same time, equal.
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08 Dec 2007 Sat 09:50 pm |
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08 Dec 2007 Sat 10:01 pm |
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Culture, values, standards lead the community.Bad or good.
We have no right to judge it..
It is a system or an organism.
We should respect other peoples cultures and values.
There is an "Diversity in culture stock" in the universal philosophy...What is "Bad" and what is "Good", you never understand...
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08 Dec 2007 Sat 10:09 pm |
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Quoting kafesteki kus:
http://www.tepav.org.tr/eng/admin/dosyabul/upload/184_turkey_and_europe___the_way_ahead.pdf
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i have read the above document, i must state its a brilliant summary on the issue.
this part was interesting;
Women’s rights
Atatürk’s early republican regime gave women the vote, banned polygamy and encouraged removal of the
veil. But courts continued to turn a blind eye to religious
second marriages, were indulgent towards honour
killings of women and left the patriarchal system intact.77
By one measure of gender equality, Turkey’s performance
is 105th in the world, twenty places below any EU
country, let down especially by low ratios of females in
school, the labour force and representative government.78
Women had to wait for the EU reform process after 2001
to win equal rights in marriage, divorce, education
and property. Family courts have now been set up. Adetermined government-led campaign pushed for school
enrolment. These reforms were started by a broad-based,
Kemalist-right wing coalition government in 2001 and
continued strongly by the AKP, which is a paradox for
those in the Kemalist establishment who suspect that
party of a reactionary, Islamist agenda. A recent report
on Turkish women by the European Stability Initiative
(ESI) said:
There are some who fear that Turkey may be
turning its back on its secular traditions. Some of the
loudest voices come from Kemalist women, who
insist that the rise of “political Islam†represents an
acute threat to the rights and freedoms of Turkish
women. There have even been calls for restrictions
to Turkish democracy, to protect women’s rights.
Yet such an “authoritarian feminism†is out of touch
with the reality of contemporary Turkey and the
achievements of recent years.
A similar paradox surrounds women’s use of the
headscarf, which emerged as a paramount symbol in the
debate about whether Abdullah Gül, whose wife wears a
headscarf, was suitable to become president of Atatürk’s
republic. Kemalists tend to view the headscarf as a symbol
of reaction, while the newly urbanised part of the
population that supports the AKP sees it more as a symbol
of identity, mobility and independence.80 The Kemalist
secularists could claim a more general success: the
proportion of Turkish women appearing with no head
covering increased from 27 per cent in 1996 to 37 per
cent in 2006.81 The 22 July 2007 election also doubled
the number of women in the 550-seat assembly to 49,
most from the AKP.
The ESI report suggested the future for Turkish women
could be brighter than the low world ranking implies and
that change is a matter of time and prosperity, not culture.
It noted that Spain and even Sweden lagged behind
in various indicators until two decades ago. While not
minimising the still great distance between law and
implementation for women’s rights, it concluded:
There are those in Europe who see the low status of
Turkish women as a reflection of an alien culture
that has no place within the European Union. Yet
patriarchy was also an integral part of European
culture, not so long ago….Is there any reason why
Turkey should not follow in the footsteps of Spain,
Ireland and the rest of Europe, towards a truly postpatriarchal
society? It is clear that the vast socioeconomic
changes underway in Turkey have created some of the conditions for a radical change
in the status of women.
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08 Dec 2007 Sat 10:24 pm |
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Are there true women's rights in other countries?
What does "WOMEN'S RIGHTS" mean?
It is only a word..
Description?
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 02:06 am |
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Quoting yilgun-7: Are there true women's rights in other countries?
What does 'WOMEN'S RIGHTS' mean?
It is only a word..
Description?
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Of course there are women's rights in other countries. Here is an article which will help define this for you.http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/essays/w_rights.html
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 02:12 am |
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Quoting yilgun-7: Culture, values, standards lead the community.Bad or good.
We have no right to judge it..
It is a system or an organism.
We should respect other peoples cultures and values.
There is an "Diversity in culture stock" in the universal philosophy...What is "Bad" and what is "Good", you never understand... |
Sorry to break it to you, but NO, we don't have to respect cultures that live by values which don't respect human rights. We CAN and we WILL judge them! Some cultural values are simply better then others! Deal with it.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 02:40 am |
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Poles are to be blamed for this late EU.
If it was not for Mr. Jan Sobievski, Europe would have been united under a single flag, loong time ago. 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 02:45 am |
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Yes of course we respect human rigts, but universal true human rights...
We also respect animal and plant and nature rights...
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 03:02 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Poles are to be blamed for this late EU.
If it was not for Mr. Jan Sobievski, Europe would have been united under a single flag, loong time ago. |
We would all be muslim now under a crescent flag. I bet that's the version they teach you in Turkish schools!   
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