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10.       hanan
197 posts
 09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:20 pm

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when i was young i was believing in allah only coz i found myself as a muslim and i had never feel the faith or the excestance of allah, but day after day when i had bad days "actually so bad days" i relized the difference between having and not having faith ,
and now i know that when i have faith it is much easier to lay all your hard moments and share them with allah and believe me he had been,is,and will be helpful always.
and now for me it is do different to read holy quran and to feel it.

11.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Dec 2007 Mon 05:32 pm

Faith is not something you can explain or articulate. You either have it or you don't. Religion is an expression of your faith. I believe you can be an extremely ethically person without being religious.

I have seen too much in my life to ever say there is no God. I have no idea whose religion is right (I have a feeling we are all wrong in some ways and right in others) but for me personally, I have studied, questioned, agonized, prayed ect...But every Sunday, I find myself in Church, saying the same prayers my ancestors have said for centuries and feeling a profound sense of belonging and fellowship. I don't know how to put that into words. I don't know why the thought of Jesus's life, work and death can move me to tears...but they do. Maybe that makes me unsophisticated....so be it. AMEN!

12.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 10 Dec 2007 Mon 07:15 pm

This is what I believe and in no way is meant to offend anyone else's faith (note for Admin )

"An Agnostic [noun] embraces a worldview in which the existence of deity is unknown or unknowable."

Although raised as a Christian, I had doubts at an early age that my "religion" had anything to do with what the bible was telling us to do. Everything about the "church" goes against what Jesus was trying to teach people - i.e. you should not pray publically, you should not worship icons, you can talk directly to God not via a preacher or pope. Even then I could see that the church was sitting on millions of pounds while people in the world were suffering.

Since then I have looked at all other religions and found them only to be human's interuptations of how you should believe in God and all seem to me to be equally hypocritical as my own culture's religion.

I believe that if God went to enormous effort to communicate and pass on "religion" to either Jesus or Mohammad, then why was there no significant improvements after these "new" religions? Is the world free of war, suffering, cruelty? Are the prison's less full? Is there less crime? Religion has actually caused more bloodshed. Did God make a mistake then?

In my opinion religion is merely geographical culture. If the most devout muslim had been born in a western country, they would merely be a devout Christian, and vice versa.

I am a good person, I have compassion and I take action when I see suffering, I have never stolen, murdered or hurt any living thing and I respect this planet. I don't need a prophet to tell me what is right or wrong, and I dont believe any human does, unless they are mentally ill. And yet, most religions will tell me that I will burn in eternal hellfire for not having faith, while representatives of their religions kill eachother in their god's name and go to paradise/heaven!

I believe that, if there is a God, he will be quite happy with the way I lived my life, thank you. I will take my chances

13.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 10 Dec 2007 Mon 08:38 pm

Anyway, I am too busy biting my tongue...I should follow Femme's example and stay well away from this MONSTER thread I created! lol

14.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Dec 2007 Mon 08:47 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Anyway, I am too busy biting my tongue...I should follow Femme's example and stay well away from this MONSTER thread I created! lol



Me too....

look for it if you are so disposed...don't if you are not. It can, and should not be imposed.

15.       MrX67
2540 posts
 11 Dec 2007 Tue 02:44 pm

i think religions or beliefs the latest things for discussion and thats to same blaming someone to be believer or unbeliever.Sure thats good to explain or discover everything with the guide of scienece and mind.But i believe theres never benefit on discuising about the main human rights...

16.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 11 Dec 2007 Tue 02:48 pm

Quoting MrX67:

But i believe theres never benefit on discuising about the main human rights...



:-S

17.       Cacık
296 posts
 11 Dec 2007 Tue 03:20 pm

In a sense AEnigma, it was quite good to open up this thread, at least we can share knowing what we are getting into, not hidden agenda in your topic !

I was brought up aethiest and remained that way until after living in Turkey for 5 years (I've been her longer than that now). After 5 years, I became a Christian. When I first arrived my whole in-law family were Muslims and pretty devout, I attended all the bayrams and everything. I reasearched so much into Islam and Christianity, prayed a lot, read the Bible and Quran and no matter what I did, prayed, said, felt, something very spiritually was right with Jesus Christ, son of God. His whole life, words, examples, teachings added to answered prayers made me become a Christian.

My answer is thus. Hope this helps answer your question AEnigma.

Have a nice day y'all Ya hear !!

18.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 11 Dec 2007 Tue 07:07 pm

Quoting Cacık:

In a sense AEnigma, it was quite good to open up this thread, at least we can share knowing what we are getting into, not hidden agenda in your topic !

I was brought up aethiest and remained that way until after living in Turkey for 5 years (I've been her longer than that now). After 5 years, I became a Christian. When I first arrived my whole in-law family were Muslims and pretty devout, I attended all the bayrams and everything. I reasearched so much into Islam and Christianity, prayed a lot, read the Bible and Quran and no matter what I did, prayed, said, felt, something very spiritually was right with Jesus Christ, son of God. His whole life, words, examples, teachings added to answered prayers made me become a Christian.

My answer is thus. Hope this helps answer your question AEnigma.

Have a nice day y'all Ya hear !!



That's really intresting Cacik - in your case your religion is definitely not a cultural thing and it has been a personal decision on your part after research. I think it is a very rare situation and adds sincerity to your faith Certainly more so than the "insurance religion" - i.e. "I go to church every Sunday just in case there is a God" brigade lol lol lol

19.       Cacık
296 posts
 12 Dec 2007 Wed 10:43 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

That's really intresting Cacik - in your case your religion is definitely not a cultural thing and it has been a personal decision on your part after research. I think it is a very rare situation and adds sincerity to your faith Certainly more so than the "insurance religion" - i.e. "I go to church every Sunday just in case there is a God" brigade lol lol lol



Thanks AEnigma. I think it important to see that not everyone who is a Christian or a Muslim or a Hindu ot Jew or or or.... is culturally bound into their faith. I wanted to share this because I feel it so important to understand that people really must study about faiths very very deeply and pray about it too, if that is what they want. I feel there are so many people who had a "faith" but they really know almost nothing about their "religion" and that goes for all world religions.

I do go to Church when I can, and it is uplifting and warm, like a family. Everybody knows each others names, every body feels safe and calm with each other, we can all share our difficulties and joys, sadness and celebrations, no-one criticizes when we make a mistake, you usually get a hug and a prayer if something goes wrong. There is no fear. Anyway, I may be rambling a wee bit but thanks again AEnigma for being so open.

Have a super wonderful day.

20.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 03:09 pm

spirtual uplifting

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