Quoting azade:

çüş!

In which countries are women supposed to set up a trap in their hotel room?

Quoting thehandsom:

GatewaytoTR's post is outrages!!
However, it brought some memories to me as well:
It was years ago, i was walking around sultanahmet-istanbul. And I saw this beautiful beautiful looking girl. She was wearing this wonderful mini skirt and suddenly as if it was magic, we had an eye contact very very briefly and I saw a very brief smile on her lips. But it was enough for me..and I feel in love at the spot..
And I started to follow her of course..But i could could not find any carouge to talk to her to express what I felt. And I learnt which hotel she lived. whereever she went I was right behind her. It went on 4 days
And everyday we had some eye contacts and strangly she was not smiling. After second day, when we had eye contact, she looked scared of something and she kept looking behind when she was wondered around.
But of course, all I wanted to say was what I felt about her.
End of the third day I saw her buying something very similar to this :

before she went to her hotel..and she looked more scared..
And the last day, I just saw her very briefly when I was waiting in front of her hotel..because some police cars came and she went to the airport with them.

She is still an unfinished song for me..
:-S

Quoting mareli:

now that's what i call weird, i never realised the difference is that big... makes me wonder if it's worth going there in the first place

Quoting mareli:

just think a bit...if i smile to you that doesn't mean i've fallen in love and i want to spend my whole life with you, and do i really have to watch my back all the time to make sure that noones stalking me? :-S it's just weird that's all...

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting mareli:

just think a bit...if i smile to you that doesn't mean i've fallen in love and i want to spend my whole life with you, and do i really have to watch my back all the time to make sure that noones stalking me? :-S it's just weird that's all...

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting mareli:

but she didn't think so, did she?

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting zbrct:

Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: but she didn't think so, did she? I was sure she loved me!! Her eyes told me that. I think she was scared of something at the time. That was the reason we could not get married. Sooo sad..

Quoting mareli:

Quoting zbrct: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: but she didn't think so, did she? I was sure she loved me!! Her eyes told me that. I think she was scared of something at the time. That was the reason we could not get married. Sooo sad.. well, that is why GatewaytoTR is right to warn girls traveling to Turkey

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting mareli: Quoting zbrct: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: but she didn't think so, did she? I was sure she loved me!! Her eyes told me that. I think she was scared of something at the time. That was the reason we could not get married. Sooo sad.. well, that is why GatewaytoTR is right to warn girls traveling to Turkey true

Quoting mareli:

Quoting zbrct: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: but she didn't think so, did she? I was sure she loved me!! Her eyes told me that. I think she was scared of something at the time. That was the reason we could not get married. Sooo sad.. well, that is why GatewaytoTR is right to warn girls traveling to Turkey

Quoting thehandsom:

You people are so cold !! You dont know anything about true love. do you?

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting mareli: Quoting zbrct: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: but she didn't think so, did she? I was sure she loved me!! Her eyes told me that. I think she was scared of something at the time. That was the reason we could not get married. Sooo sad.. well, that is why GatewaytoTR is right to warn girls traveling to Turkey true

Quoting azade:

As long as anybody isn't scared off for real
Turks are some of the most hospitable people I have ever met and as long as one uses their common sense there's no need to worry

Quoting azade:

handsomes love story was

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting azade:

Has TC lost its sense of humor? Sense of knowing jokes from truth?

Quoting azade:

Has TC lost its sense of humor? Sense of knowing jokes from truth?

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting mareli:

Quoting azade:

holy crap I'd be scared of that was true, handsomes never come off as some psycho stalker I still don't believe it

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting mareli: Quoting azade: Has TC lost its sense of humor? Sense of knowing jokes from truth? now that was not a joke, that was truth; i think you have to read everything through again since you've missed something

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting mareli: Quoting azade: Has TC lost its sense of humor? Sense of knowing jokes from truth? now that was not a joke, that was truth; i think you have to read everything through again since you've missed something

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting azade:

Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: Quoting azade: Has TC lost its sense of humor? Sense of knowing jokes from truth? now that was not a joke, that was truth; i think you have to read everything through again since you've missed something Mereli I think you are new here! Sorry, I played it since this afternoon. But it was so tempting.. You are welcome to TC anyway!!

Quoting thehandsom:

well..
I think in turkey, number of rape cases recorded is around 5% (I think). which means that only 1 in 20 rape case is recorded.
I think that value in the uk is 1 in 3..
so the value 0.018 per 1000 people makes 0.36 per 1000 people.
I think in the uk 1 in 3 rape cases is recorded.
I have no idea how it works with the usa.
so new table for 3 countries:
us -1.19 rape case per 1000
uk-0.14*3=0.42 rape per 1000
turkey- 0.36 rape per 1000.
So Turkey is still better than uk and the usa..

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting azade: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting mareli: Quoting azade: Has TC lost its sense of humor? Sense of knowing jokes from truth? now that was not a joke, that was truth; i think you have to read everything through again since you've missed something Mereli I think you are new here! Sorry, I played it since this afternoon. But it was so tempting.. You are welcome to TC anyway!! Yani! sana. Günün şakası

Quoting thehandsom:

virginity might be prized, but in the end, turkey's population is shifting to big cities for one reason or another and in cities, the relationships are not hugely different than an european city. In coming years the importance of virginity will be less than today. And today the virginity is less important then 20 years ago.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

I agree with you on that verse. There are worse verses as well :S
However islam in Turkey has always been different than the islam in countries like sauidi arabia, pakistan etc.
Islam in Turkey has always been a milder version of islam.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

But we dont know the real numbers in Turkey. so we cant be sure uk has better rape crime record than Turkey!!
and I dont like you today.

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Handsom I can't believe you could be so naive

Rape stats are always highest in countries where rape is treated as a serious crime and where women are not afraid to report it to the police. You will find similar high stats for the US and UK for martial abuse.

It is very sinister to see the stats so low for countries like Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

I am proud that our stats are higher - it proves there is no stigma to the woman and she is less afraid to report such a crime.

PS. It sounds like you are a stalker!!!! Careful, it will get you arrested in the UK

Quoting catwoman:

I am officially inviting Aenigma, GatewaytoTR, Kaddersokak and Zbrct to my gang! This gang is by invitation only, so feel special!

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting catwoman: I am officially inviting Aenigma, GatewaytoTR, Kaddersokak and Zbrct to my gang! This gang is by invitation only, so feel special! Hmmmm well I suppose I will have to accept! It seems the CGG have deserted me, so I will have to scrape the barrel and join yours

Quoting AlphaF:

Very typical ! DIVIDE AND CONQUER
Very old trick....

Quoting catwoman:

I am officially inviting Aenigma, GatewaytoTR, Kaddersokak and Zbrct to my gang! This gang is by invitation only, so feel special!

Quoting girleegirl:

CGG has a secret plan to infiltrate this new rival!

Quoting GatewaytoTR:

Tips for Women Traveling in the Muslim World
By Rose Aslan, Freelance Writer



Traveling as a single woman has its advantages and benefits, but as always, there are drawbacks if one doesn’t go prepared. Various Muslim countries in the Middle East and nearby are still very conservative in their customs and traditions and foreign women should be careful to follow certain etiquette. This is not only to respect the local culture but more importantly to avoid harassment. I have heard way too many horror stories from solo women traveling in Muslim countries, so here are some tips to avoid getting into any embarrassing or even potentially dangerous situations.

1. Bring appropriate clothes

Apart from tourist resorts such as the Mediterranean Coast of Turkey, Red Sea resorts in Egypt or beach resorts of Bali, it is advisable to follow a more conservative dress code. Shorts and tank-tops are definitely a no-no, as are mini-skirts and tight clothes. While wearing a loose jacket and headscarf in places like Iran is mandatory for all female citizens and travelers, similar dress codes of a lesser scale should be observed in other Muslim countries even if there is no government imposed laws. In a country like Egypt, you will find most local women dress in clothes that cover everything except their face and hands, but you needn’t go this far. A loose long sleeve shirt (which is much more suitable for hot weather anyway) along with a flowing skirt and sandals is the best way to go. You will receive less stares and more respect from locals. Also, don’t forget to carry a headscarf at all times to wear when entering mosques and some Christian churches.

Just as an example of the importance of wearing the right clothes, once, in a famous tourist area of Cairo, I saw two Russian women sporting very short shorts and halter-tops. There must have been a hundred men staring at them in amazement, following after them as if in a parade. On the other hand, in my modest long sleeve shirt and skirt, the men hardly batted an eyelash at me.

2. Wear a wedding ring

This is a necessary step one must take to avoid men getting too close or proposing to you (before I learned this trick, I must have gotten at least twenty proposals of marriage from men in the various Middle Eastern countries I traveled to). Before setting off on your trip, conjure up a believable story about your ‘husband’. You can tell people something along the lines that your husband is waiting for you in the next town over and you are just visiting some good friends in the area. It’s always good to make sure people know that you are on your way to meeting your husband. Also, if you are traveling with a man who is not your husband, wear a wedding ring anyway and tell people you are married. Dating before marriage or even having friends of the opposite sex is looked down upon in Muslim societies.

3. Don’t get too close to men in the hotel or in the tourism business

A lot of these men are used to foreign women and like to think that they can get them to bed with a few smooth words. Of course western women are used to mixing with men in purely friendly conservations and innocent nights out, yet beware most men in Muslim countries don’t think this way. By accepting an invitation from a local man, you have just agreed to sleep with him (in his view). A simple dinner or walk by the beach may be a big deal for the man since women in his country would never think of doing this. He may even propose to you before nightfall if you are really unlucky.

4. Never make eye contact with men in the street

If you observe local women, you will not see one of them looking around at people or walking slowly, they always appear to walk briskly to an apparent goal. If you want to take a look at the surrounding scene, then sunglasses are a must so men cannot attempt to make eye contact. Eye contact is a serious move in Muslim countries, and making contact with a strange man is your invitation to some annoying comments or even worse, an unwanted stalker.

5. Set-up a makeshift door alarm in your hotel room

There are many ways to set up a fool-proof alarm in your hotel room. This is sometimes necessary for single females as hotel managers, clerks, or ordinary thieves might decide that they have the right to pay you a night visit since, after all, you look just like those foreign women in movies who sleep with any man they meet. So what you can do is push a desk or table against the door, and then place an object such as a glass on the edge of the table. If anyone attempts to open the door, they have trouble opening the door because of the table, and then the glass will fall, which will most probably scare away any potential intruder and wake you up.

6. Carry a pocket knife and pepper spray with you

It might sound a little drastic, but I always keep these in my pocket or shoulder bag at easy reach. Even though I have never had to use them, I have definitely made use of them to threaten possible potential attackers. If anyone attempts to get near you or hurt you, just pull out the pepper spray, hold your place and threaten to spray it in the person’s eyes. This has worked for me on several occasions.


7. Try to befriend local women

Local women, especially students, will often be fascinated by you, a strange looking foreigner and will try practicing their English on you. Take advantage of your female status and go into a world where most foreign men can never enter. It’s really fun to hang out with the ‘gals, you can learn a bit of the language, culture, and cooking too.

Most of all, if you learn to respect local customs and traditions, your trip could be immensely richer and more pleasant and you will return home with warm memories with not a complaint to be heard.

Quoting thehandsom:

OK THIS IS BEYOND THE JOKE NOW!!
Turkish people is one of the most friendly and the most hospitable people on this planet.

I remember reading posts in TC from single women who traveled all over Turkey and did not mention any thing bad about it.
I remember Marion, who lives in Turkey, talking how hospitable Turkish people are.

Stop worrying about traveling to Turkey as single woman. The chance being threatened in London by hoodies or robbed with a knife in New York is greater than feeling threatened in Turkey.

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting azade:

As long as anybody isn't scared off for real
Turks are some of the most hospitable people I have ever met and as long as one uses their common sense there's no need to worry

Quoting kaddersokak:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

OK THIS IS BEYOND THE JOKE NOW!!
Turkish people is one of the most friendly and the most hospitable people on this planet.

I remember reading posts in TC from single women who traveled all over Turkey and did not mention any thing bad about it.
I remember Marion, who lives in Turkey, talking how hospitable Turkish people are.

Stop worrying about traveling to Turkey as single woman. The chance being threatened in London by hoodies or robbed with a knife in New York is greater than feeling threatened in Turkey.

Quoting christine:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting thehandsom: OK THIS IS BEYOND THE JOKE NOW!! Turkish people is one of the most friendly and the most hospitable people on this planet. I remember reading posts in TC from single women who traveled all over Turkey and did not mention any thing bad about it. I remember Marion, who lives in Turkey, talking how hospitable Turkish people are. Stop worrying about traveling to Turkey as single woman. The chance being threatened in London by hoodies or robbed with a knife in New York is greater than feeling threatened in Turkey. marion in turkey walks in hijab around turkey pretending a turkish girl in order to avoid stalkers its in the habbit of westerners to praise the other cultures! they are raised so unlike easterners!

Quoting catwoman:

I am officially inviting Aenigma, GatewaytoTR, Kaddersokak and Zbrct to my gang! This gang is by invitation only, so feel special!

Quoting hanan:

friend i guess u make muslims men look like animals,i admit that any single woman(even muslim) should be careful but not that much i guess that is gonna be a mentaldisease , men are men any where,and any girl will be disturbed if she was alone even if she was not that beautiful.

Quoting catwoman:

yes - men in that post ARE described as animals, which they ARE in most muslim countries

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting catwoman: yes - men in that post ARE described as animals, which they ARE in most muslim countries Well.. A bit exaggeration..is it NOT? like 80-90%? when the religion allows to beat women and when it looks as if a woman was a half human?

Quoting thehandsom:

This is as 'fantastic' as, some of the men in eastern countries describing 80-90% western women 'beaches'.
Harikasiniz girls.
well done really!!

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting catwoman: yes - men in that post ARE described as animals, which they ARE in most muslim countries Well.. A bit exaggeration..is it NOT? like 80-90%? when the religion allows to beat women and when it looks as if a woman was a half human? This is as 'fantastic' as, some of the men in eastern countries describing 80-90% western women 'beaches'. Harikasiniz girls. well done really!!

Quoting catwoman:

BTW, in the east, a "bitch" is basically a woman who is free and doesn't need a man to be happy. In that sense they are right to say that 80-90% of western women are like that.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

and about the concept of that word 'bitch' by the east, I would not rely on that. It is better if you dont either.
Because that is not what they mean..

Quoting thehandsom:

well..you might have been watched and read about it.
I LIVED IN IT.
and about the concept of that word 'bitch' by the east, I would not rely on that. It is better if you dont either.
Because that is not what they mean..

Quoting thehandsom:

and about the concept of that word 'bitch' by the east, I would not rely on that. It is better if you dont either.
Because that is not what they mean..

Quoting catwoman:

BTW, in the east, a "bitch" is basically a woman who is free and doesn't need a man to be happy. In that sense they are right to say that 80-90% of western women are like that.

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

well..you might have been watched and read about it.
I LIVED IN IT.
and about the concept of that word 'bitch' by the east, I would not rely on that. It is better if you dont either.
Because that is not what they mean..

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting AlphaF:

The animal who raped the thirteen year old British girl in Antalya was an 19 year old German boy...

He was caugt, tried and convicted.. After tons of political pressure by German government, I think he is now serving his sentence in a German prison.

Believe it or not....!

Quoting AlphaF:

how do you know?

Quoting AlphaF:

Do you know how many young Turkish boys are seduced by overaged, sex starved, stale ladies of the West?

Have you seen any of these ladies in the hole? or, do you think that is ok?

Quoting christine:

Also suduction and rape are too differnt issues. Any one who rapes another person,no matter what age or sex should be looked up and the key thrown away.

Quoting AlphaF:

Do you know how many young Turkish boys are seduced by overaged, sex starved, stale ladies of the West?

Quoting shel_b_ann:

I guess it's really cos turkish girls are not generally having premarital sex, so turkish boys know they cant get it from them...therefore any western women that they come across are targeted cos they are 'easy'...whether they are ugly, fat, unattractive, whatever, i guess the turkish boy doesnt care, cos they're unlikely to get it with a turkish girl before marriage! (thats how i understand it anyway)

Quoting shel_b_ann:

I guess it's really cos turkish girls are not generally having premarital sex, so turkish boys know they cant get it from them...therefore any western women that they come across are targeted cos they are 'easy'...whether they are ugly, fat, unattractive, whatever, i guess the turkish boy doesnt care, cos they're unlikely to get it with a turkish girl before marriage! (thats how i understand it anyway)

Quoting femme_fatal:

a friend of mine who was in pakistan involved in humanitarian aid (naive westerners who really give their hearts to the charity) together with her husband went shopping. for the moment she was left in a car(5 mins until he was back with his ciggarets) she was almost been raped in the day light, in the town centre, in her own car. bunch of wild and horny pakis took the signal (a woman being left alone) as an invitation or chance to do their honorable business. they just simply followed their cultural/religious directions

Quoting caliptrix:

I have just read the list of "tips".

Now I am afraid of myself as a Turkish guy. I should go away from this country.

Quoting GatewaytoTR:

Tips for Women Traveling in the Muslim World
By Rose Aslan, Freelance Writer



Traveling as a single woman has its advantages and benefits, but as always, there are drawbacks if one doesn’t go prepared. Various Muslim countries in the Middle East and nearby are still very conservative in their customs and traditions and foreign women should be careful to follow certain etiquette. This is not only to respect the local culture but more importantly to avoid harassment. I have heard way too many horror stories from solo women traveling in Muslim countries, so here are some tips to avoid getting into any embarrassing or even potentially dangerous situations.

1. Bring appropriate clothes

Apart from tourist resorts such as the Mediterranean Coast of Turkey, Red Sea resorts in Egypt or beach resorts of Bali, it is advisable to follow a more conservative dress code. Shorts and tank-tops are definitely a no-no, as are mini-skirts and tight clothes. While wearing a loose jacket and headscarf in places like Iran is mandatory for all female citizens and travelers, similar dress codes of a lesser scale should be observed in other Muslim countries even if there is no government imposed laws. In a country like Egypt, you will find most local women dress in clothes that cover everything except their face and hands, but you needn’t go this far. A loose long sleeve shirt (which is much more suitable for hot weather anyway) along with a flowing skirt and sandals is the best way to go. You will receive less stares and more respect from locals. Also, don’t forget to carry a headscarf at all times to wear when entering mosques and some Christian churches.

Just as an example of the importance of wearing the right clothes, once, in a famous tourist area of Cairo, I saw two Russian women sporting very short shorts and halter-tops. There must have been a hundred men staring at them in amazement, following after them as if in a parade. On the other hand, in my modest long sleeve shirt and skirt, the men hardly batted an eyelash at me.

2. Wear a wedding ring

This is a necessary step one must take to avoid men getting too close or proposing to you (before I learned this trick, I must have gotten at least twenty proposals of marriage from men in the various Middle Eastern countries I traveled to). Before setting off on your trip, conjure up a believable story about your ‘husband’. You can tell people something along the lines that your husband is waiting for you in the next town over and you are just visiting some good friends in the area. It’s always good to make sure people know that you are on your way to meeting your husband. Also, if you are traveling with a man who is not your husband, wear a wedding ring anyway and tell people you are married. Dating before marriage or even having friends of the opposite sex is looked down upon in Muslim societies.

3. Don’t get too close to men in the hotel or in the tourism business

A lot of these men are used to foreign women and like to think that they can get them to bed with a few smooth words. Of course western women are used to mixing with men in purely friendly conservations and innocent nights out, yet beware most men in Muslim countries don’t think this way. By accepting an invitation from a local man, you have just agreed to sleep with him (in his view). A simple dinner or walk by the beach may be a big deal for the man since women in his country would never think of doing this. He may even propose to you before nightfall if you are really unlucky.

4. Never make eye contact with men in the street

If you observe local women, you will not see one of them looking around at people or walking slowly, they always appear to walk briskly to an apparent goal. If you want to take a look at the surrounding scene, then sunglasses are a must so men cannot attempt to make eye contact. Eye contact is a serious move in Muslim countries, and making contact with a strange man is your invitation to some annoying comments or even worse, an unwanted stalker.

5. Set-up a makeshift door alarm in your hotel room

There are many ways to set up a fool-proof alarm in your hotel room. This is sometimes necessary for single females as hotel managers, clerks, or ordinary thieves might decide that they have the right to pay you a night visit since, after all, you look just like those foreign women in movies who sleep with any man they meet. So what you can do is push a desk or table against the door, and then place an object such as a glass on the edge of the table. If anyone attempts to open the door, they have trouble opening the door because of the table, and then the glass will fall, which will most probably scare away any potential intruder and wake you up.

6. Carry a pocket knife and pepper spray with you

It might sound a little drastic, but I always keep these in my pocket or shoulder bag at easy reach. Even though I have never had to use them, I have definitely made use of them to threaten possible potential attackers. If anyone attempts to get near you or hurt you, just pull out the pepper spray, hold your place and threaten to spray it in the person’s eyes. This has worked for me on several occasions.


7. Try to befriend local women

Local women, especially students, will often be fascinated by you, a strange looking foreigner and will try practicing their English on you. Take advantage of your female status and go into a world where most foreign men can never enter. It’s really fun to hang out with the ‘gals, you can learn a bit of the language, culture, and cooking too.

Most of all, if you learn to respect local customs and traditions, your trip could be immensely richer and more pleasant and you will return home with warm memories with not a complaint to be heard.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom URL=http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes:

countries rape stats [/URL]

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Cacık:

Actually a huge majority of rapes in Turkey are never reported. I have seen many instances where a woman claims she is raped and then her husband leaves her ! So naturally stats in Turkey are low for rape because woman are "asking for it" here, there is not much sympathy for a woman who is raped, there is not much support even from her own home. The reason why stats are high in the US and UK is because they are reported, and in the most part justice occurs.

Quoting boradiz:

Please dont take this as an insult. I am really raising this for information.
Several times people are adressing some verses in Quran to show how badly women are treated in muslim countries. To be honest, This is not fair. I dont want to be easily labelled as an animal because of a writing 1400 years ago (although many believe it is holy writing ) and simply am born in a 90% muslim society.
My main question is how women are treated in Christianity. I am not asking the question "in western cultures today"
I am really asking the behavior in the religion itself. (e.g. I have not ever heard of a women priest)
As I told this is not a this is not a "you are also treating badly" question. I am really asking for plain information from people who has knowledge on the topic.
For those who dont want to be involved in this long discussion , they can send me a private message.
PS : I am not sure we have jewish members, but they are welcome to inform me on their religion on this aspect.

Quoting caliptrix:

-I wish femme_fatal won't put any comments about what I wrote. Seriously-

Quoting libralady:

Our old friend of TC, Trudy, was a great lone traveller and it is a pity that she is not still here to tell you her tales. She wrote some wonderful essays about her journeys through Turkey, and I think the one thing she would say beyond everything else, is use your common sense.

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting hanan:

friend ,i think you got me wrong

Quote:

Quoting AlphaF:

Mainly because it is, in general but with exceptions, freely offered and all requests are immediately granted....Why do you think single Western women flock to beaches of Southern Turkia? Because they like Turkish bread?

Quoting AlphaF:

You wont find many of the pure and innocent Western Ladies in those beaches...

Quoting AlphaF:

You wont find many of the pure and innocent Western Ladies in those beaches...

Quoting AlphaF:

Why do you think single Western women flock to beaches of Southern Turkia? Because they like Turkish bread?

Quoting christine:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Sil on the Hill:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting caliptrix:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting caliptrix: -I wish femme_fatal won't put any comments about what I wrote. Seriously- bu ne?