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The Night of Horror for the Tourist Girls in Taksim Square
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220.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 04 Jan 2008 Fri 12:21 am

Quote:

... but maybe I'm not that good at reading minds.



Don't worry Catwoman, there's always somebody worse of than yourself.ME I am the 1% inferred in this video. I think I did it wrong . . . I wasn't supposed to do it on myself me thinks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOooCNfRg_U&feature=related

221.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 04 Jan 2008 Fri 04:37 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting catwoman:

Some, more civilized debates, don't make it a point to win, but to share different points of view.:



That is RICH coming from YOU!!!! Is the pot calling the kettle black? lol




Well, actually here's a definition of debate...

Rule-based competitive debate is often encouraged in high schools and colleges. Often, it takes the form of a contest with explicit rules. It may be presided over by one or more judges. Each side seeks to win, by following the rules, and even by using some rules to break other rules, within limits.
debate in education

I know how AEnogma loves these links

I think we get confused between debate and dialogue

Dialogue

I much prefer the latter as it's the form that seeks more of a truthfull resolution rather than a "win" based on intellectual gymnastics.



I know i'm not confused, thanks.

222.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Jan 2008 Fri 06:49 pm

Quoting SERA_2005:

....I know i'm not confused, thanks.



I actually agree with you Sera...I'm all for exchange of ideas and views, but what often happens here is over the top, IMHO.

Here it seems to be a beat the other over the head, belittle them into submission or silence. They go way off the topic and into personal insults.

The point is in a debate there are rules. The "debates" here don't follow rules.

223.       xkirstyx
363 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 04:09 am

Quoting xkirstyx:

OK I have been following this thread and think I have missed something. Is there a post that gives us the english translation of the newspaper report. Because everyone is talking about this horrific incident by these monsters...but from the pictures...picture 1)looks like some girl being grabbed but the girl behind her is watching and smiling!?! picture 2)can't really see anything but press taking pictures and the people watching, again, don't seem stressed they are watching with their arms round eachother, picture 3) just a girl crying with a guy, picutre4 ) they all look happy. I mean, I'm not saying that nothing bad happened, but it doesnt even look as if anyone was hit. If I was there with my husband and someone was sexually assaulting, I know he would hit the guy. Everyone still even has there drinks in their hands, surely if it was something serious there would be at least one picture of someone being hit, or they would have at least put their drinks down. I'm not saying nothing bad happened. I'm just saying I can't understand the newspaper report what it's saying, only the post where someone added quotes from other people about it. But from the pictures I can't see anything worse than what happened even in my tiny island at New Year.

.... seriously, what actually happened??

224.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 04:18 am

It is an obvious set-up....and someone is finally about to say "Hey ! the King is naked"...

225.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 02:20 pm

It is a huge set up by the enemies of Turks..
I will blame the USA first.. Obviously EU is involved too ...and and may be Iran? lol

226.       E.T.K.O
0 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 03:31 pm

Why do not you accuse PKK instead of those countries? It seems obvious a set-up of PKK by using the suburb supporters of it. They have registered lawyers that knows the criminal laws very well. And they also know punishment of this crime where been commited in Taksim square was a funny charge. But disgracing Turkey and its nation is an aim for PKK and they are successed for now.

227.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 04:13 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting SERA_2005:

....I know i'm not confused, thanks.



I actually agree with you Sera...I'm all for exchange of ideas and views, but what often happens here is over the top, IMHO.

Here it seems to be a beat the other over the head, belittle them into submission or silence. They go way off the topic and into personal insults.

The point is in a debate there are rules. The "debates" here don't follow rules.



Could not agree more,you speak such sense!!

228.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 07:40 pm

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Why do not you accuse PKK instead of those countries? It seems obvious a set-up of PKK by using the suburb supporters of it. They have registered lawyers that knows the criminal laws very well. And they also know punishment of this crime where been commited in Taksim square was a funny charge. But disgracing Turkey and its nation is an aim for PKK and they are successed for now.



The thing is, how can they (PKK) have disgraced Turkey? Why do you think they have succeeded?? The only way any of us knew it had happend was because we visit this site. It was not in our news (UK), we had enough murders and brawls to contend with! I still think Turkey is a wonderful place.

229.       azade
1606 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 08:04 pm

Harassing people is usually not one of their methods, maybe you're being a little paranoid?

230.       lady in red
6947 posts
 05 Jan 2008 Sat 08:10 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Why do not you accuse PKK instead of those countries? It seems obvious a set-up of PKK by using the suburb supporters of it. They have registered lawyers that knows the criminal laws very well. And they also know punishment of this crime where been commited in Taksim square was a funny charge. But disgracing Turkey and its nation is an aim for PKK and they are successed for now.



The thing is, how can they (PKK) have disgraced Turkey? Why do you think they have succeeded?? The only way any of us knew it had happend was because we visit this site. It was not in our news (UK), we had enough murders and brawls to contend with! I still think Turkey is a wonderful place.



I agree with you LL - highly unlikely that this was reported in any country outside Turkey itself - and the UK has enough of its own louts to put up with and be ashamed of in any big city on any night of the year - never mind New Year's Eve.

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