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US ELECTIONS
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 11:52 pm |
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WHO IS SUPPORTING WHO IN THE COMING US ELECTIONS
REPUBLICANS
John McCain (Older than me): Blank Rome LLP, Citigroup, Bank of New York Mellon, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Credit Suisse, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, MGM Mirage ve Univision.
Mitt Romney (Mormon): Bain Capital (his own company), Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, Marriott, Kirkland & Ellis, Morgan Stanley, PriceWaterhouse, JP Morgan, UBS ve Lehman Brothers.
Rudy Giuliani (unknown to me) : Ernst & Young, Credit Suisse, Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Bracewell & Guiliani (His own company)), Morgan Stanley, UBS, Milbank Tweed, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan ve Bank of America.
SEEMS LIKE SAME COMPANIES ARE SUPPORTING ALL CANDIDATES HERE. SO, LETS HAVE A LOOK AT DEMOCRAT CANDIDATES
DEMOCRATS
Hillary Clinton (Wife of Lewinsky's old boyfriend) : DLA Piper Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, National Amusements, Emily's List, JP Morgan, Kirkland & Ellis, Skadden Arps, Merrill Lynch, Time Warner, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Ernst & Young ve Blank Rome LLP.
Barack Obama (Colored, African roots) : Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, National Amusements, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Citadel Investments, Credit Suisse, Skadden Arps, Morgan Stanley, Time Warner, UBS ve Harvard University..
ONCE AGAIN SAME GROUPS SEEM TO SUPPORT BOTH CANDIDATES.
WHO DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE WINNER. MY GUESS IS "THE COMPANIES".
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 11:57 pm |
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 12:01 am |
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 12:04 am |
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 12:46 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: WHO IS SUPPORTING WHO IN THE COMING US ELECTIONS
REPUBLICANS
John McCain (Older than me): Blank Rome LLP, Citigroup, Bank of New York Mellon, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Credit Suisse, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, MGM Mirage ve Univision.
Mitt Romney (Mormon): Bain Capital (his own company), Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, Marriott, Kirkland & Ellis, Morgan Stanley, PriceWaterhouse, JP Morgan, UBS ve Lehman Brothers.
Rudy Giuliani (unknown to me) : Ernst & Young, Credit Suisse, Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Bracewell & Guiliani (His own company)), Morgan Stanley, UBS, Milbank Tweed, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan ve Bank of America.
SEEMS LIKE SAME COMPANIES ARE SUPPORTING ALL CANDIDATES HERE. SO, LETS HAVE A LOOK AT DEMOCRAT CANDIDATES
DEMOCRATS
Hillary Clinton (Wife of Lewinsky's old boyfriend) : DLA Piper Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, National Amusements, Emily's List, JP Morgan, Kirkland & Ellis, Skadden Arps, Merrill Lynch, Time Warner, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Ernst & Young ve Blank Rome LLP.
Barack Obama (Colored, African roots) : Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, National Amusements, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Citadel Investments, Credit Suisse, Skadden Arps, Morgan Stanley, Time Warner, UBS ve Harvard University..
ONCE AGAIN SAME GROUPS SEEM TO SUPPORT BOTH CANDIDATES.
WHO DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE WINNER. MY GUESS IS "THE COMPANIES".
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It's called Hedging Your Bets
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:49 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: "Three U.S. companies—banking and brokerage powerhouse J.P. Morgan Chase, oil giant Chevron/Texaco and global telecommunications provider MCI—have won contracts from the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, the Iraq State Oil Marketing Organization, and the Afghanistan provisional government." |
Aenigma, what are the benefits the UK got out of the war? Surely they didn't go to bring democracy to Iraq either... 
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:51 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Aenigma, what are the benefits the UK got out of the war? Surely they didn't go to bring democracy to Iraq either... |
Please let me know when you find any benefits - other than maintaining our "position" as Bush's lap dog 
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:53 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting catwoman: Aenigma, what are the benefits the UK got out of the war? Surely they didn't go to bring democracy to Iraq either... |
Please let me know when you find any benefits - other than maintaining our "position" as Bush's lap dog |
So you didn't win any nice oil contracts? Ohh.... then I must say I'd feel cheated if I was a Brit! 
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:54 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting catwoman: Aenigma, what are the benefits the UK got out of the war? Surely they didn't go to bring democracy to Iraq either... |
Please let me know when you find any benefits - other than maintaining our "position" as Bush's lap dog |
So you didn't win any nice oil contracts? Ohh.... then I must say I'd feel cheated if I was a Brit! |
Not as far as I am aware, no But there must have been a "sweetener" somewhere, I agree.
The only solace is that it will be Blair's legacy....the UK will NEVER forget what he did.
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:57 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Not as far as I am aware, no But there must have been a "sweetener" somewhere, I agree.
The only solace is that it will be Blair's legacy....the UK will NEVER forget what he did. |
The US will also NEVER forget UK's loyalty.  Though really... you shouldn't have...
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:59 am |
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Quoting catwoman: The US will also NEVER forget UK's loyalty. Though really... you shouldn't have... |
I will be very surprised if a Prime Minister will ever go against public opinion in such a radical way again. The whole country KNEW that the reasons for going to Iraq were lies, but he ignored everyone and went off to drink coffee on Bush's ranch and discuss tactics.
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:01 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I will be very surprised if a Prime Minister will ever go against public opinion in such a radical way again. The whole country KNEW that the reasons for going to Iraq were lies, but he ignored everyone and went off to drink coffee on Bush's ranch and discuss tactics. |
It wasn't very smart of him, I must admit. Bush was lying to the public two years before the war started to "prepare" them for an attack, that way he didn't go against the public. That's way smarter! I'm surprised he didn't advice Blair to do the same.... :-S
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:03 am |
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Quoting catwoman: It wasn't very smart of him, I must admit. Bush was lying to the public two years before the war started to "prepare" them for an attack, that way he didn't go against the public. That's way smarter! I'm surprised he didn't advice Blair to do the same.... :-S |
Poor Teaschip still believes his lies
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 03:06 am |
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Quoting AlphaF:
John McCain (Older than me) |
There is someone older than you????
Quoting AlphaF:
Hillary Clinton (Wife of Lewinsky's old boyfriend)
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Oh come on man!! She is a US Senator in her own right and you label her with the ancient history about her husband's affair?
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 03:13 am |
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In the stone age, when alfa was born, women could only be defined in relation to a man... so there you go. 
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 05:17 am |
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Who Will Take On the Banks?
It was smart of the top Democrats to cut presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich out of that South Carolina debate, where they lamely attempted to deal with the dire consequences of the banking meltdown without confronting the banks. They made all the proper concerned noises about millions of folks losing their retirement savings and homes, but none was willing to say what Kucinich would have said: Bankers are crooks who will steal from the public unless the government holds them accountable.
How do I know Kucinich would have said that? Because I interviewed him for the Los Angeles Times back when he was mayor of Cleveland and the banks foreclosed on his city after he refused to sell the public power plant. Others can talk a populist line, but Kucinich lived it. He was forced out of office that time, but voters realized 10 years later that Kucinich had been right. Thanks to the public power alternative that Kucinich refused to sacrifice, Cleveland had cheap power, and he was elected to the Ohio Legislature and then to Congress as his reward.
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 09:11 am |
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It is amazing how rapidly my threads become popular around here...
Can someone tell me who on earth Rudy is? 
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 09:27 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: It is amazing how rapidly my threads become popular around here...
Can someone tell me who on earth Rudy is? |
I will gladly educate you alfie.....Rudy Guliani is the former mayor of New York City. He was the mayor on 9/11.
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:37 pm |
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 04:39 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: What an amazing article, written with more hate, bias and homophobia than our most ardent Turkish nationalists!!! 
I am surprised you are giving this radical (who has no proof of his AMAZING claims) the benefit of having his/her views aired on a public forum Roswitha |
I have to agree with you, AEnigma. Wow...I am a little shocked that someone would post it. It's one thing to have an opposing view, but to completely defame someone with no proof is not called for.
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 05:10 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Who Will Take On the Banks?
It was smart of the top Democrats to cut presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich out of that South Carolina debate, where they lamely attempted to deal with the dire consequences of the banking meltdown without confronting the banks. They made all the proper concerned noises about millions of folks losing their retirement savings and homes, but none was willing to say what Kucinich would have said: Bankers are crooks who will steal from the public unless the government holds them accountable.
How do I know Kucinich would have said that? Because I interviewed him for the Los Angeles Times back when he was mayor of Cleveland and the banks foreclosed on his city after he refused to sell the public power plant. Others can talk a populist line, but Kucinich lived it. He was forced out of office that time, but voters realized 10 years later that Kucinich had been right. Thanks to the public power alternative that Kucinich refused to sacrifice, Cleveland had cheap power, and he was elected to the Ohio Legislature and then to Congress as his reward.
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I have to admit...he may be funny looking...but he is a brave, brave man. Lots of respect for him.
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 07:18 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: It is amazing how rapidly my threads become popular around here...
Can someone tell me who on earth Rudy is? |
Rudy Giuliani
ARGH!!!! Rudi...you want to know who Rudi is....from an ex New Yorker....he's the guy who got rid of Organized Crime and left us with disorganized crime....I know, I was there during this time.
"Mafia Commission trial
In the Mafia Commission Trial (February 25, 1985–November 19, 1986), Giuliani indicted eleven organized crime figures, including the heads of New York's so-called "Five Families", under the RICO Act on charges including extortion, labor racketeering, and murder for hire. Time magazine called this "Case of Cases" possibly "the most significant assault on the infrastructure of organized crime since the high command of the Chicago Mafia was swept away in 1943", and quoted Giuliani's stated intention: "Our approach...is to wipe out the five families."[33] Eight defendants were found guilty on all counts and subsequently sentenced on January 13, 1987 to hundreds of years of prison time."
" As a federal prosecutor, Giuliani was credited with bringing the "perp walk," parading of suspects in front of the previously alerted media, into common use as a prosecutorial tool.[25] After Giuliani "patented the perp walk", the tool was used by increasing numbers of prosecutors nationwide"
Critics of Giuliani claim he arranged public arrests of people, then dropped charges for lack of evidence on high-profile cases rather than going to trial. In a few cases, his public arrests of alleged white-collar criminals at their workplaces, with charges later dropped or lessened, irreparably damaged their reputations.[27] He claimed that veteran stock trader Richard Wigton, of Kidder, Peabody & Co. was guilty of insider trading; in February 1987 he had officers handcuff Wigton and march him through the company's trading floor, with Wigton in tears. Giuliani had his agents arrest Tim Tabor, a young arbitrageur and former colleague of Wigton, so late that he had to stay overnight in jail before posting bond. However, in three months, charges were dropped against both Wigton and Tabor; Giuliani said, "We're not going to go to trial. We're just the tip of the iceberg," but no further charges were forthcoming and the investigation did not end until Giuliani's successor was in place. Giuliani's high-profile raid of the Princeton/Newport firm ended with the defendants having their cases overturned on appeal on the grounds that what they had been convicted of were not crimes."
"Rudolph Giuliani was born in the New York City borough of Brooklyn, the only child of working-class parents Harold Angel Giuliani, and Helen C. D'Avanzo, both children of Italian immigrants.[6] The family was Roman Catholic and its extended members included police officers, firefighters, and criminals.[7] Harold Giuliani had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing; after his release he served as a Mafia enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D'Avanzo, who ran an organized crime operation involved in loan sharking and gambling at a restaurant in Brooklyn."
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24 Jan 2008 Thu 07:27 pm |
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Quoting alameda: ARGH!!!! Rudi...he's the guy who got rid of Organized Crime and left us with disorganized crime.... |
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26 Jan 2008 Sat 12:58 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting alameda: ARGH!!!! Rudi...he's the guy who got rid of Organized Crime and left us with disorganized crime.... |
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Here is what the New York Times had to say about him:
"The real Mr. Giuliani, whom many New Yorkers came to know and mistrust, is a narrow, obsessively secretive, vindictive man who saw no need to limit police power. Racial polarization was as much a legacy of his tenure as the rebirth of Times Square.
Mr. Giuliani’s arrogance and bad judgment are breathtaking. When he claims fiscal prudence, we remember how he ran through surpluses without a thought to the inevitable downturn and bequeathed huge deficits to his successor. He fired Police Commissioner William Bratton, the architect of the drop in crime, because he couldn’t share the limelight. He later gave the job to Bernard Kerik, who has now been indicted on fraud and corruption charges.
The Rudolph Giuliani of 2008 first shamelessly turned the horror of 9/11 into a lucrative business, with a secret client list, then exploited his city’s and the country’s nightmare to promote his presidential campaign."
NYT Primary Choices
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