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Revised NATIONALIST MANIFESTO
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 10:43 pm |
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Quoting azade: Anaaaamm! Manyak misin sen, deli misin neyisin sen?
You're probably a lost case, otherwise I would google around to document that you are wrong. |
i am not familiar with political terminologies.
manyak... maybe 
if you do not have principles to respect, what do you have besides appartenance and heart affiliation?
i do not think that doing things that have to be done, or having a walk, or a night in Kumkapi is stepping over principles.
what is basic is the need to keep clean, to agree, to decide democratic. and with wisdom.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 11:12 pm |
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Quoting portokal:
if you do not have principles to respect, what do you have besides appartenance and heart affiliation?
i do not think that doing things that have to be done, or having a walk, or a night in Kumkapi is stepping over principles.
what is basic is the need to keep clean, to agree, to decide democratic. and with wisdom.
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Of course everyone should have principles. But tell me this, how are points 3, (4), 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, (10 ) and 11 democratic?
Turkish sentence was a popular line by the way
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 11:15 pm |
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Quote: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting portokal: Portokal, is the extent of your politics only that which your friend Alpha has taught you?  |
no...  |
It is strange you became a Turkish Nationalist without even being Turkish  |
She is not the only one, I think.. |
There's a long queue of ladies lining up to surrender their TC passwords... it's quicker than signing up for training. I said he looked good in red.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 11:52 pm |
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Quoting azade: Quoting portokal:
if you do not have principles to respect, what do you have besides appartenance and heart affiliation?
i do not think that doing things that have to be done, or having a walk, or a night in Kumkapi is stepping over principles.
what is basic is the need to keep clean, to agree, to decide democratic. and with wisdom.
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Of course everyone should have principles. But tell me this, how are points 3, (4), 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, (10 ) and 11 democratic?
Turkish sentence was a popular line by the way |
3. no to bringing back historical terms and habits.
well... Ottomans have some habits are not practised nowadays. Like several wifes also. or the habit of being alone. or being screamy, scary, talking about past. old dresses...
4. a home is the secular state where religion melts with policy perfectly yet being separate. love penetrates in everyday, everyday penetrates love through duties.
5. no separatism is acceptable
i feel like having a long nap this afternoon. what do you feel like to do?
or
i will have xxxx today evening.
6. Army services are of highest duty to citizens.
if one is on duty, would the other slice the apple thick?
should ever something happen, who you count on?
7. There is the Nation State and there is the Global crowd. Citizens find joy in the State.
would one do a massage to one's feet? shall one ask the neighbor for this joy?
8.national sovereignty and pride come above all.
one is the best friend and home is the best place. that, again does not mean locking or that the merry crowd cannot be visited.
9. missionaries will not find buyers in the citizens of the national state.
see point 9 details and add to this the fact of choosing and joy and will, will you?
10 no to fundamentalism or soft dictatorship tendencies.
11. no to individualism and self-praising tendencies.
"if i would not have done"... "i am the..." "leave me alone!" "do not nag me!" in different languages.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 11:54 pm |
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Your rules are quite specific and limiting the individual so my question is still, how is that democratic?
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28 Jan 2008 Mon 12:02 am |
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Quoting azade: Your rules are quite specific and limiting the individual so my question is still, how is that democratic? |
i don't know azade.
if you know what is democracy, tell me.
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28 Jan 2008 Mon 12:03 am |
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actually, why am i in this thread of revised manifesto?
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28 Jan 2008 Mon 01:12 am |
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Quote: Quoting peace train: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting portokal: Portokal, is the extent of your politics only that which your friend Alpha has taught you? |
no... |
It is strange you became a Turkish Nationalist without even being Turkish |
She is not the only one, I think.. |
There's a long queue of ladies lining up to surrender their TC passwords... it's quicker than signing up for training. I said he looked good in red. |
i am not gealous. they are the ladies without TURKISH MANIFESTO
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28 Jan 2008 Mon 01:14 am |
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Quoting peace train: There's a long queue of ladies lining up to surrender their TC passwords... it's quicker than signing up for training. I said he looked good in red. |
There is? From what information do you base this? Another conspiracy theory?
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28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:06 am |
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REVISED MANIFESTO
There are rules.
there are things that has to be done.
And there is the way we feel about doing some things.
What is important and we love has priorities.
And nothing is comparable with being happy and making happy.
Many things need to be learned about the one we love.
In the same time, we discover ourselves, too.
In a way, principles come from the heart. Yet they are related to societal and cohabitation. We can dig up as much as we want. It will also depend on the angle of the digger. An answer depends on putting the no before yes, too. And there can always be the danger of facing a not good choice.
Sometimes we have the tendencies of accumulating bad experiences. One comes and wipes them away. No matter how. The will of getting somewhere, to do something is what matters. To share. To have a project. To be together.
Do not ask me what democracy is. Equal rights. What is equal? In this democracy, someone punches your nose elegantly.
Nietzsche converted before death. What is faith for Nietzsche?(just at the level of wandering)
Partners in a relationship fight to get each other. They do a lot of things together. They try to give the "best". They build a language. They get familiar with each other. They get to have a common world.
The basis may be or not material.
Should one only stick to that, life would be rather dull.
It is about building and developing.
And you can discover so much things in your friend, that you can build a world. Actually, -and this is basic- complete your world. but what you got seems like it has nothing to do with what you had. And you like it. You love it. Your life becomes colourful. It can be kept colourful alone, also. We are not self-sufficient. This world has to be kept. These could be rules. There has to be an equilibrium. And an input. But these melt in a way that becomes natural.
Having these is wonderful.
And necessary. Sine qua non condition.
Ruin the world you built, give up pillars from it in favor of foreign "advices", not melting wat you have into it, you will destroy it.
A horrible thought, but only ment to acknowledge of the treasure a world is.
What are the pillars? Trust, faith, respect, openness, honesty, understanding and freedom.
Trust in the common world, faith in building a shrine to love, respect towards the world, yourself and your friend, honesty in being correct and open towards what you bring in and what is brought in, openness to give and receive, to have and to cherish what you have. understanding of what is good to be done, what can be built in, what needs to be cleared and taken care of. and freedom to understand and question. (birds love freedom))))
and humor. salt and spice of life.
This is the revised manifesto.
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28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:09 am |
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Werent you the one I pmd with about some sort of goth-like art personal picture, quite some time ago, Portokal?
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