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4220.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 02:55 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

Quoting alameda

Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children.  However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........

 

I hope she was drunk when she said that!! Otherwise, obviously no sort of motherly obsession justifies that..

 

I was not drunk. I really believe in what I´m saying. A pararel situation would be if I was to decide whether my child dies or somebody else´s. There´s no way I would chose another person´s child over mine. It´s similar with organ transplants.

4221.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:27 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I was not drunk. I really believe in what I´m saying. A pararel situation would be if I was to decide whether my child dies or somebody else´s. There´s no way I would chose another person´s child over mine. It´s similar with organ transplants.

 

Sure, but specifically killing someone for your child is way beyond limits. And if your child grew up to be a decent human being, I don´t think he´d respect you for it. He might even hate the rest of his life, knowing that someone was deprived of it because of him.

4222.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:30 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Also, who is to say that someone who is paralised, but able to communicate by computer, should not be allowed to live their life and instead be an organ doner to someone more "worthy"?

 

Isn´t that exactly Steven Hawkins´ life?

4223.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:37 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Isn´t that exactly Steven Hawkins´ life?

 

 Exactly!!!!!  Are GG and Trudy saying they should die to save someone more worthy?

4224.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:40 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor.

 

I also give blood and am on the Anthony Nolan Bone Marrow register to donate bone marrow if required.

 

This is completely BESIDE THE POINT, which is NOT about the ethics of donating body tissue or organs, but is about the dangers of carrying a Doner Card - but I guess you just don´t understand it...{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}



Edited (11/26/2009) by TheAenigma

4225.       armegon
1872 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 05:32 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.

 

Its better if you give your organ instead of killing someone? Did you also watch John Q last night?{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

4226.       armegon
1872 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 05:35 pm

An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

4227.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 07:36 pm

 

Quoting armegon

An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

 

What is the problem with people? So what if she even is an atheist, then she´s less worthy of a person and deserves to be executed? {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}



Edited (11/26/2009) by catwoman

4228.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 09:48 pm

 

Quoting armegon

An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

 

I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?

4229.       armegon
1872 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 10:12 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?

 

Her name is Nigar Azizmuradi, my mistake sorry ...I hope she would be given sanctuary, it is very cruel to punish anyone because of his/her beliefs. I wondered why they insistently announce her as an atheist since she is a member of a cult. Already realized a Turkish newspaper started a campaign in order not to send her back to Iran, below is the link;

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/13044967.asp?gid=229

4230.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Nov 2009 Thu 11:41 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Sure, but specifically killing someone for your child is way beyond limits. And if your child grew up to be a decent human being, I don´t think he´d respect you for it. He might even hate the rest of his life, knowing that someone was deprived of it because of him.

 

Offf ya, it´s not like I´m planning to walk the streets wanting to kill other people´s children. I was talking about accepting other people´s organs. I don´t really think if I killed somebody, any hospital would accept his/her organs for transplantation, would it? And, multi talented as I am, performing organ transplant is not what I would be able to do on my own lol I was referring to the situation where I may or may not accept an organ for my child knowing that the donor is brain dead. I sure hope I will never have to make such decision.

 

As for AE´s question who can decide whether or not a paralysed person can live, I say it is the person himself or herself. I am fond of euthanasia.

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