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4240.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 12:05 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

When so much is at stake, there are those who will do highly unethical and illegal things to profit. There has to be a method to clearly limit illegal and unethical "harvesting". It´s downright goulish and gruesome. {#emotions_dlg.puking}

 

This is trully repulsive, I couldn´t agree more

4241.       armegon
1872 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 12:59 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

I couldn´t understand the article.. but did she apply for asylum?

 

Yes, she did, she applied to UN refugee agency, she is now waiting for the decision of Turkish authorities. Turkey has two choices, either she will be deported to another country or will be sent back to Iran...

4242.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:43 pm

This story of child abuse within the catholic church in Ireland (ignored, covered up  and dismissed for decades by the Vatican)  confirms the hypocrisy in the catholic church…and in so many religions. 


 


Just some of the news stories over the past few weeks…


“Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen has said the cover-up by the Catholic hierarchy in Dublin of child abuse by priests was shocking and disturbing. A report revealed decades of abuse was concealed by the church in Dublin in an attempt to save its reputation.


It said some senior police officers colluded in the cover-up.


Mr Cowen said it was a crushing verdict that the good name and standing of the Church as an institution was placed above the basic safety of children. “


 


In all, 450 other people in the Dublin diocese claim they were abused as children. One hundred and fifty two priests stand accused.


A fraction have been prosecuted. The latest report is as shocking as the Ryan Report published earlier this year - not just because of the abuse itself, but because it exposes how that abuse was covered up. It examined how allegations of child abuse in the Archdiocese of Dublin against a sample of 46 priests were handled by bishops, including a former cardinal, and state authorities between 1 January 1975 and 30 April 2004. “


 


The inquiry into sex abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland has disclosed that the Vatican ignored formal requests for information.


The inquiry asked for details of reports on abuse sent to the Vatican by the Dublin archdiocese in 2006. The Vatican did not reply but told the Irish Foreign Affairs department the request "had not gone through appropriate diplomatic channels.


The inquiry condemned church leaders for covering-up abuse for decades.”


 


 


 


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8384372.stm


 



Edited (11/29/2009) by TheAenigma

4243.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:49 pm

It´s horrid to read about the scale of child abuse by CC in Ireland. The matter has been given a lot of press here. Too bad it´s that late. It only shows how dangerous it is to give unchallenged trust to any kind of organisation just because most people in the country share the beliefs they advocate. I am disgusted reading about that and hope the priests will serve their time {#emotions_dlg.puking}

4244.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:54 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

It´s horrid to read about the scale of child abuse by CC in Ireland. The matter has been given a lot of press here. Too bad it´s that late. It only shows how dangerous it is to give unchallenged trust to any kind of organisation just because most people in the country share the beliefs they advocate. I am disgusted reading about that and hope the priests will serve their time {#emotions_dlg.puking}

 

It IS absolutely disgusting, I agree.  Also, remember we are not talking about a small faction of the Catholic Church - this behaviour seems to have been condoned by the Vatican itself for decades.  Those children who complained in the past were made to feel like liars and frauds by the highest people within the catholic church and the police.

 

I thought this type of upper echelon "paedophile network", common for hundreds of years, had died out.  Let´s hope these sanctimonious, lying, deceitful paedophiles are made an example of, and the Vatican too!  It absolutely makes my blood boil!



Edited (11/29/2009) by TheAenigma
Edited (11/29/2009) by TheAenigma

4245.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:05 pm

The details in full - over 46 ... FORTY SIX!!! priests of the catholic church in Ireland are involved.  I can´t help thinking that if this story had been about muslims, this forum would be swamped with threads and posts about it!  

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8381433.stm

 

4246.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:18 pm

I don´t think there is an institution (as it cannot be thought of otherwise) more corrupt than the Catholic Church and I´m not talking only about repulsive acts like child abuse but all kinds of money embezzlement or getting away with any kind of sin you can think of just because Catholic countries treat them as holy cows. In Poland the situation is only starting to change now, before, being a priest meant you could do whatever you wanted to and people would not stand against you because of your position. It´s sick.

4247.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:20 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I don´t think there is an institution (as it cannot be thought of otherwise) more corrupt than the Catholic Church and I´m not talking only about repulsive acts like child abuse but all kinds of money embezzlement or getting away with any kind of sin you can think of just because Catholic countries treat them as holy cows. In Poland the situation is only starting to change now, before, being a priest meant you could do whatever you wanted to and people would not stand against you because of your position. It´s sick.

 

 Yep - completely agree.  I have also wondered something else about the Catholic Church too....where in the bible does it say you need a "pope", a "vatican" and a huge amount of wealth that is never shared with the poor?

4248.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 03:28 am

Meat grown in laboratory

 

Researchers in the Netherlands created what was described as soggy pork and are now investigating ways to improve the muscle tissue in the hope that people will one day want to eat it.

No one has yet tasted their produce, but it is believed the artificial meat could be on sale within five years.

Vegetarian groups welcomed the news, saying there was “no ethical objection” if meat was not a piece of a dead animal.

Mark Post, professor of physiology at Eindhoven University, told The Sunday Times: “What we have at the moment is rather like wasted muscle tissue. We need to find ways of improving it by training it and stretching it, but we will get there.

 

................ummm...........yum..........{#emotions_dlg.puking}..........ugh....I think I´d just rather have beans than this modern innovation...........guess I´m just old fashioned....

4249.       admin
758 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 10:31 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Meat grown in laboratory

 

I think it would be awesome if they can do this in a moderately inexpensive way, I am already a big fan  

4250.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 11:24 pm

 

Quoting admin

 

 

I think it would be awesome if they can do this in a moderately inexpensive way, I am already a big fan  

 

Hmmm.....I guess there are benefits, but all in all it does not appeal to me.....It doesn´t seem natural and things that aren´t natural often have hidden drawbacks that are only discovered later.

 

I mean, this is beyond GMO food....

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