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"West suffers from moral degradation"
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1.       Roswitha
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 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:22 pm

The Iranian Foreign Minister makes a good point by: The US system of hegemony has failed (nothing new.....)

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=43631§ionid=3510212

2.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:24 pm

A good point? This man should not be given air time on here or on any media!

"The Iranian foreign minister also criticized the lack of family stability in Western countries and said basic social structures like the family have virtually lost all meaning, having been replaced by such morally reprehensible social bonding as seen among homosexuals. "

People are free to do what they like, it is not always to our liking, but they are free. However, "structures like the family" have certainly NOT broken down. I wonder how many western TC members here would say they do not belong to a solid family unit?

"Commenting on the role of Muslim women in their societies, Mottaki said it was incumbent upon the people and governments of Islamic states to provide every possible means for the full and constructive participation of women in all fields of social activity." lol lol lol

(Will believe this when I see it)

3.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:28 pm

AE! I was just pasting the same fragment

What else could an Iranian say? Would you really like to see the world as it is over there with its "family" values, free from homosexual perverts etc? Don't forget that one of the things that keeps this system of values going is the thought that women are inferior to men. That ensures the peace. Women know their place. The community is ok with 12-year-olds being forced to marry. Is that a value reform you want to see in the corrupt west?

4.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:30 pm

I hope we are not sharing the same brain too

Daydreamer, do you come from a solid family unit? Do most of your friends?

Or are you busy sleeping with a different man everynight and doing immoral things? Do I? Do any of my friends?

This kind of "evil west" propaganda is utter crap.

5.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:35 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I hope we are not sharing the same brain too


you do share my beautiful brain

6.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:42 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I hope we are not sharing the same brain too



Now you scared me...I promise to ask my GP for a brain scan to make sure I have the whole of it *gulp*

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Daydreamer, do you coming from a solid family unit? Do most of your friends? Or are you busy sleeping with a different man everynight and doing immoral things?



My parents have been married for 31 years now and they're still absolutely in love with each other so I'd say my family can be considered quite a solid one.

As for me, I'm no prude, nor do I claim marrying my husband as a virgin but I wouldn't call my conduct obscene whatsoever. I believe two adults have the right to have sex with each other regardless of their sex. As long as they are willing to shoulder consequences of their actions.

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This kind of "evil west" propaganda is utter crap.



Exactly, just as "virtuous east" is. My Turkish friends sleep with girls wearing headscarves and I'm sure if it wasn't for the fear of stoning same things would take place in more rigid societies.

7.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:46 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

My parents have been married for 31 years now and they're still absolutely in love with each other so I'd say my family can be considered quite a solid one.



My parents are still married and in love too, as is my sister and her husband.
I guess we must be in the minority eh? According to this crap lol

Even where my friends have divorced, they still retain solid families.

8.       MrX67
2540 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 04:47 pm

seems still a high wall between west&east,so people trying to judge each other from behind to wall by don't show any effort for climb on wall for know each other better?thats really great stuff for who feeding for their selfish political aims?Sure there will be always deep cultural differences,but i think thats never barrier for understand each other better...And i think we forget ethical rules never in monopoly of east or west and easy to see most of realities same for all of us when we look at to events by objective glasses..Life singing to same song to all of us just with different tunes,so better to catch common notes

9.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:15 pm

what annoys me is that people compare bikini with burka. thus they show they arent using the logics at all.

first of all, let us look at the percent of western women who walk, work and live in bikini everyday: 0%

does any of you in the west go shopping in bikini?

they wear bikini when they on the beach sunbathing. which maybe happens once a year and maybe a week or so.

second, lets look at the percent of easttern and western (muslim) women who cover themselves with hijab/niqab/burka, they walk, work and live in tents. can we say 0% about covered women? it is around more than 80-90%

calling westerners degradated they hide their own backwardness.

10.       MrX67
2540 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:16 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

what annoys me is that people compare bikini with burka. thus they show they arent using the logics at all.

first of all, let us look at the percent of western women who walk, work and live in bikini everyday: 0%

does any of you in the west go shopping in bikini?

they wear bikini when they on the beach sunbathing. which maybe happens once a year and maybe a week or so.

second, lets look at the percent of easttern and western (muslim) women who cover themselves with hijab/niqab/burka, they walk, work and live in tents. can we say 0% about covered women? it is around more than 80-90%

calling westerners degradated they hide their own backwardness.

main not bikini or burka ,main how we tolerated each otherthe both only clothe pieces

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