Quoting AEnigma III:

I hope we are not sharing the same brain too

Quoting AEnigma III:

I hope we are not sharing the same brain too

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Daydreamer, do you coming from a solid family unit? Do most of your friends? Or are you busy sleeping with a different man everynight and doing immoral things?

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This kind of "evil west" propaganda is utter crap.

Quoting Daydreamer:

My parents have been married for 31 years now and they're still absolutely in love with each other so I'd say my family can be considered quite a solid one.

Quoting femme_fatal:

what annoys me is that people compare bikini with burka. thus they show they arent using the logics at all.

first of all, let us look at the percent of western women who walk, work and live in bikini everyday: 0%

does any of you in the west go shopping in bikini?

they wear bikini when they on the beach sunbathing. which maybe happens once a year and maybe a week or so.

second, lets look at the percent of easttern and western (muslim) women who cover themselves with hijab/niqab/burka, they walk, work and live in tents. can we say 0% about covered women? it is around more than 80-90%

calling westerners degradated they hide their own backwardness.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Why are no westerners screaming IN CAPITAL LETTERS for this thread to be locked? Why has nobody used any swear words yet or invoked the help of God?

Someone should PM Ros and "politely" request her to remove this thread because it insults "westernness"

Quoting MrX67:

be calm Aenigma,theres always a middle road

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting teaschip1:

I can't read the link it states an error has occured in the application, so hard to comment. But I will say this, I don't hold much regard for what an Iranian Prime Minister has to say regarding the west. I think his own country has a hell of alot more issues to deal with than worrying about the wests family values. I think he needs to take a serious inventory check regarding his own backwards country.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Why are no westerners screaming IN CAPITAL LETTERS for this thread to be locked? Why has nobody used any swear words yet or invoked the help of God?

Someone should PM Ros and "politely" request her to remove this thread because it insults "westernness"

Quoting eddie:

West / East....Day / Night ......Take the snapshot quick ...!
Look at the picture now.....
That's right ...different views....diff opinions....religions...beliefs...clothes...
bikinis....burkas....speedos....nothing....anything.
( why does it always center around women?...)

That's all there is to it. Words are harmless.
News reports can damage because it gets the masses riled up....angry...
...bitter....enraged....mad....you name it.
Don't fall for the bread that they throw at you ....as in the days
of the Gladiators.....!

THAT'S THEIR JOB...! SELL SELL SELL.....

Who gives a peacock's feathers what women wear wherever...?
Let them wear what they want. The West is not corrupt....factions
of business are....some people are....but the West itself ? No.
Niether is the East....same deal.

Let families think and grow rich. Things happen...Feelings change....
Situations change a family....marriage....finances....relationships....

East and West should check the log in your own eye before accusing
the other about the splinter in the OTHER'S eye.....

It all plays out in time......

The big ' V ' to all.....

Quoting eddie:

Who gives a peacock's feathers what women wear wherever...?Let them wear what they want. The West is not corrupt....factions
of business are....some people are....but the West itself ? No.
Niether is the East.... same deal.

Quoting eddie:

( why does it always center around women?...)..

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

you come back and check your spelling

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting eddie:

Granted...ask nicely and you shall receive.."Women all
around the world should have the freedoms to wear what
they wish..."......and " The East is not corrupt....factions of business there are....some people there are....but the East itself? ...No " ...

The 'V' is still there gang....later.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting eddie:

Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting eddie: Granted...ask nicely and you shall receive.."Women all around the world should have the freedoms to wear what they wish..."......and " The East is not corrupt....factions of business there are....some people there are....but the East itself? ...No " ... The 'V' is still there gang....later. Eddie - sorry to confuse. Femme was referring to my post - for some reason I had written "where" instead of "wear"!!!

Quoting AEnigma III:

I hope we are not sharing the same brain too

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting eddie: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting eddie: Granted...ask nicely and you shall receive.."Women all around the world should have the freedoms to wear what they wish..."......and " The East is not corrupt....factions of business there are....some people there are....but the East itself? ...No " ... The 'V' is still there gang....later. Eddie - sorry to confuse. Femme was referring to my post - for some reason I had written "where" instead of "wear"!!! She oftens misspells , wrong tense...but she's trying. She does rather well actually ....good job in English all around FF.....!

Quoting eddie:

It's going to be a great day! Enjoy it FF , AE , ...

Quoting eddie:

I was complimenting you FF. You don't know me, so you're
approach is attack !...If you really knew me, you would
know that I am not the way you perceive me to be...
It's going to be a great day! Enjoy it FF , AE , ...

Quoting femme_fatal:

what annoys me is that people compare bikini with burka. thus they show they arent using the logics at all.

first of all, let us look at the percent of western women who walk, work and live in bikini everyday: 0%

does any of you in the west go shopping in bikini?

they wear bikini when they on the beach sunbathing. which maybe happens once a year and maybe a week or so.

second, lets look at the percent of easttern and western (muslim) women who cover themselves with hijab/niqab/burka, they walk, work and live in tents. can we say 0% about covered women? it is around more than 80-90%

calling westerners degradated they hide their own backwardness.

Quoting Elisabeth:

I am wearing my bikini right now...in my office!! When I go home to my Turkish husband...I will put on my burka!! hahaha

Quoting Elisabeth:

I am wearing my bikini right now...in my office!! When I go home to my Turkish husband...I will put on my burka!! hahaha

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting elham:

offfffff,Forum become boring because these subjects
I do not know why these women do not tire of these discussion probably something wrong in their lives .or maybe they thought themselves speaker on women's ,humans's rights

Quoting eddie:

Quoting femme_fatal:

come on, eddie, i can be nice
of course, thank you for your compliments.
i hug you
you are right, i dont know you, as well as you dont know me
let us be friends

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom: Quoting femme_fatal: come on, eddie, i can be nice of course, thank you for your compliments. i hug you you are right, i dont know you, as well as you dont know me let us be friends hmmm.. I getting increasingly edgy here!! Do i need to remind you 'honor killings'?

Quoting thehandsom:

I am just JEALOUS..OK?
I just wanted to warn..That is all!!

Quoting Roswitha:

The Iranian Foreign Minister makes a good point by: The US system of hegemony has failed (nothing new.....)

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id=43631§ionid=3510212

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

lisa, this eddie chap has a strange interest in you

Quoting Elisabeth:

Does TC have anti stalker laws?

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting peace train:

pssst Girleegirl, a little word in your ear.

Just about everyone on this site is a "stalker". Everyone jumps in during discussions, it's what these forums are for. Now if you're talking about unwanted pms, then that's another story, that's a dreadful thing to do. Something many of us on this site have never done . . . sent an unfriendly pm.

Stalking? Silleegirl . . . and so ironic. Well done!

Quoting alameda:

Roswitha!!! aka lady R

Quoting teaschip1:

Hey speak for yourself I'm not a "stalker" have been stalked but never the stalker..

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting teaschip1:

Hey speak for yourself I'm not a "stalker" have been stalked but never the stalker..

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting girleegirl: Quoting teaschip1: Hey speak for yourself I'm not a "stalker" have been stalked but never the stalker.. Me either teas but hey, since "just about everybody" here is, maybe it is something we should look into. Hey....I could stalk you and you could stalk me!!! What do you think??

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting teaschip1:

Ok, better yet..I could stalk you and you could stalk lis and lis could stalk Aenigma and Aenigma could stalk femme and femme could stalk handsome and we could all stalk peacetrain. What do you think?

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting girleegirl: Quoting teaschip1: Hey speak for yourself I'm not a "stalker" have been stalked but never the stalker.. Me either teas but hey, since "just about everybody" here is, maybe it is something we should look into. Hey....I could stalk you and you could stalk me!!! What do you think??

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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: Ok, better yet..I could stalk you and you could stalk lis and lis could stalk Aenigma and Aenigma could stalk femme and femme could stalk handsome and we could all stalk peacetrain. What do you think? you are genius

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Quoting AEnigma III:

Ouh sorry
I am having trouble keeping up tonight ....


(As Handsome said to Femme )

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Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Elisabeth:

here femme...please do try to keep up.

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting girleegirl:

Ummmm admin? I will resort to the "ninja" for now but if we could we please get a "stalking" smiley that would be wonderful.
Thank you!

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting eddie:

Hey NinjaGirls....since you're all stalking about...here's one for the road....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-C0xFMvM48

An added plus....Cake and ice cream will be served after
the stalking is over....

: >

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting eddie:

Quoting girleegirl: Quoting eddie: Hey NinjaGirls....since you're all stalking about...here's one for the road.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-C0xFMvM48 An added plus....Cake and ice cream will be served after the stalking is over.... : > What makes you think it will end?

Quoting elibrody:

I know perfectly I will be quotes as a muslim candidate, and you will probably say that woman was he right to do whatever she pleases with her body but I do consider sometimes ( most of the time) what people wears in unacceptable.

I am 19 and sure sometimes I wear provocative stuff, but it's sad for example when I go to my sister's highschool and I see some of the class mate in a mini skirt and a blouse that nearly covers them and still they complain about guys saying stuff, if they wear something like that what do they expect?

I am not saying the solution is wearing a burka or something like that but with time people has started to confuse freedom with licentiousness

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Daydreamer:

You may stone me to death but I need to share my teaching experience here. A while ago in Poland there were numerous cases of girls harassed by their male classmates (one of them ended in suicide). The principal of a neighbouring school summoned one student's mother as the clothes her daughter was wearing for school were, euphemistically speaking, indecent. In other words, her top barely covered her nipples. The mother felt insulted and lectured the principal on the rights of personal freedom as well as accused her of being jealous of the young students sex appeal. The principal then replied that, fine, if the mother agrees to hand in a written statement acquitting the principal of any kind of liability in case of any harassment on behalf of the boys.

I believe women have the right to wear whatever they want. Still, contrary to what most easterners say, it doesn't mean that all westerners wear mini skirts and show their cleavage. Most working places have their dressing code.

However, if a woman decides to wear provocative clothes, she should be ready to shoulder the consequences. I cannot understand women who dress like hookers and then complain that men comment on them. You get what you give. Of course, I am far from justifying crimes here. No matter how a woman is dressed, it should be no excuse for rapists.

Quoting Daydreamer:

Actually MrX I don't see anything wrong with the morality or ethics of today's youth. There's nothing wrong in having fun...

Quoting MrX67:

having fun sure very innocent and humanly need,but if it pass over limits??and really don't you think humankind suffering with moral and ethical problems a bit more day by day?

Quoting Daydreamer:

Nope, I think people are just as they've always been. You know, past generations always complain about the young ones being devoid of moral spine. But it is due to the fact that we no longer are those young people and we don't really know how they are. In fact, they are not so different from how we used to be. It just looks different from our today's perspective.

What is it exactly that you find so terrible about young people nowadays?

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting Elisabeth:

One of the biggest problems is that people are not judged as individuals. We are all judged by the region/country that we live in even if we do not share the same ideas as the majority.

Quoting Roswitha:

America's moral values have changed dramatically in the last 30 years. Our society is definately changing and obviously not for the better since crime rate, drug abuse, pornography and many other things that are degrading have increased. What's interesting to note is that every major society/government ie. Roman, Egypt, Greece, Ottaman etc. has eventually self-destructed as their morality has declined. Does that mean we are as a nation headed for self-desctruction.



http://facistamerica.blogspot.com/2004/11/american-moral-values.html