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"West suffers from moral degradation"
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:28 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting elibrody: I know perfectly I will be quotes as a muslim candidate, and you will probably say that woman was he right to do whatever she pleases with her body but I do consider sometimes ( most of the time) what people wears in unacceptable.
I am 19 and sure sometimes I wear provocative stuff, but it's sad for example when I go to my sister's highschool and I see some of the class mate in a mini skirt and a blouse that nearly covers them and still they complain about guys saying stuff, if they wear something like that what do they expect?
I am not saying the solution is wearing a burka or something like that but with time people has started to confuse freedom with licentiousness |
Would you think it was ok if these young girls where stoned to death for the way they dressed? Or perhaps yourself for wearing provocative clothes? |
I don't aprove anything of what's done, I am only saying that it is truth with time society become blind to these things and they loose their values
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:31 pm |
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Not everyone has the same values elibrody and it is far better to die because of your choices than to die because you offended someones idea of what your values should be.
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 12:12 pm |
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You may stone me to death but I need to share my teaching experience here. A while ago in Poland there were numerous cases of girls harassed by their male classmates (one of them ended in suicide). The principal of a neighbouring school summoned one student's mother as the clothes her daughter was wearing for school were, euphemistically speaking, indecent. In other words, her top barely covered her nipples. The mother felt insulted and lectured the principal on the rights of personal freedom as well as accused her of being jealous of the young students sex appeal. The principal then replied that, fine, if the mother agrees to hand in a written statement acquitting the principal of any kind of liability in case of any harassment on behalf of the boys.
I believe women have the right to wear whatever they want. Still, contrary to what most easterners say, it doesn't mean that all westerners wear mini skirts and show their cleavage. Most working places have their dressing code.
However, if a woman decides to wear provocative clothes, she should be ready to shoulder the consequences. I cannot understand women who dress like hookers and then complain that men comment on them. You get what you give. Of course, I am far from justifying crimes here. No matter how a woman is dressed, it should be no excuse for rapists.
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 12:16 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: You may stone me to death but I need to share my teaching experience here. A while ago in Poland there were numerous cases of girls harassed by their male classmates (one of them ended in suicide). The principal of a neighbouring school summoned one student's mother as the clothes her daughter was wearing for school were, euphemistically speaking, indecent. In other words, her top barely covered her nipples. The mother felt insulted and lectured the principal on the rights of personal freedom as well as accused her of being jealous of the young students sex appeal. The principal then replied that, fine, if the mother agrees to hand in a written statement acquitting the principal of any kind of liability in case of any harassment on behalf of the boys.
I believe women have the right to wear whatever they want. Still, contrary to what most easterners say, it doesn't mean that all westerners wear mini skirts and show their cleavage. Most working places have their dressing code.
However, if a woman decides to wear provocative clothes, she should be ready to shoulder the consequences. I cannot understand women who dress like hookers and then complain that men comment on them. You get what you give. Of course, I am far from justifying crimes here. No matter how a woman is dressed, it should be no excuse for rapists. |
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Grrrrrrrrr again I have to admit to completely agreeing with you? 
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 12:18 pm |
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parenting's mission getting more necessary or hard at west and east a bit more day by day,otherwise youth will sink in hedonism oceaan on all over world if it goes this way,so ethical or moral values matter of all world without any border...
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 02:10 pm |
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Actually MrX I don't see anything wrong with the morality or ethics of today's youth. There's nothing wrong in having fun...
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 02:13 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Actually MrX I don't see anything wrong with the morality or ethics of today's youth. There's nothing wrong in having fun... |
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 02:16 pm |
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Nope, I think people are just as they've always been. You know, past generations always complain about the young ones being devoid of moral spine. But it is due to the fact that we no longer are those young people and we don't really know how they are. In fact, they are not so different from how we used to be. It just looks different from our today's perspective.
What is it exactly that you find so terrible about young people nowadays?
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 02:20 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: having fun sure very innocent and humanly need,but if it pass over limits??and really don't you think humankind suffering with moral and ethical problems a bit more day by day? |
Mrx
You have to look at the events from the top a bit.
Think of your father. He was possibly worrying about the way you are worrying now..and think of your grand father. Possibly, he was the same.
I know from my grand father and my father.
Both of them thought that moral values were disappearing.
But actually, they dont..They are just evolving..changing with the time.
All moral and ethical values change with the time. That is the thing wont change..
We/you should get used to it..
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 02:21 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Nope, I think people are just as they've always been. You know, past generations always complain about the young ones being devoid of moral spine. But it is due to the fact that we no longer are those young people and we don't really know how they are. In fact, they are not so different from how we used to be. It just looks different from our today's perspective.
What is it exactly that you find so terrible about young people nowadays? |
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21 Feb 2008 Thu 02:40 pm |
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I was trying to find crime rates by country but I couldn't find it. Instead, I found a site with homicide rates. If you scroll down the page, you'll see the rate in 2000s. Actually it hasn't risen considerably, in some countries it's even decreased. You also have to take into account countries with war.
Anyway, see for yourselves:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homicide_rate
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