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I hate this whole abi/kardes thing!!!!
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:19 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Could someone explain a little more what this means abi/kardes? How are they treated differently?  |
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:32 pm |
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Quoting elham: Quoting elham: Quoting teaschip1: Could someone explain a little more what this means abi/kardes? How are they treated differently? |
Abi is the elder one, kardes is the younger one. The older one has more duties regarding the family, thus he has more respect in the family
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I like that , but we don't use it in my country,some families i Egypt use that
abi and abla also to elder sister |
Oh, I think I see know..How come they have more respect though, because their older? Doesn't each family member have chores or responsiblites? So what happens when they all grow to be adults are they then on the same respect level? Sorry, I'm just trying to understand. 
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:36 pm |
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I think I'm trying to relate it too much with my culture and being the only girl with 3 brothers, I'm having difficulties trying to understand. :-S
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:38 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting elham: Quoting elham: Quoting teaschip1: Could someone explain a little more what this means abi/kardes? How are they treated differently? |
Abi is the elder one, kardes is the younger one. The older one has more duties regarding the family, thus he has more respect in the family
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I like that , but we don't use it in my country,some families i Egypt use that
abi and abla also to elder sister |
Oh, I think I see know..How come they have more respect though, because their older? Doesn't each family member have chores or responsiblites? So what happens when they all grow to be adults are they then on the same respect level? Sorry, I'm just trying to understand. |
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:42 pm |
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:46 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: ........thats not a certain classifaction about duty or responsibility for sure teaschip,sure each members of people or family have own duties and responsibilites,but thats a common tradition for Turkish people (its even a bit stronger on rural areas) to show respect to age,so age really big advantage for social statu |
Jumping in here, I love it in as much as there is a certain decorum and formality brought into relationships that does not decrease the love and affection felt among members of society.
Abi, kardes, abla and so forth are very polite ways to address each other. I think in some parts of the world we have lost that little bit of etiquette and have decended into rougher means of communication.
Also, I have never seen a culture where children are so prized, loved and respected. I also think it's better than the disrespect held in some places towards elders.
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:57 pm |
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this topic look likes to explaining test of Turkish kebap or Turkish raki to who never tasted em
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22 Feb 2008 Fri 10:58 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: Quoting teaschip1: Could someone explain a little more what this means abi/kardes? How are they treated differently? |
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Teaschip
Even when grown up, the older brother and sister will act with responsibility to the younger siblings. e.g. one of my members of staff is 27. She is abla and sends about half of her salary every month to her 20 year old brother who is at university. The older one helps support the younger one. In return, the younger ones often listen to the advice or wishes of their older brother or sister.
It is not just in money terms, but this is an easy way to explain it as a foreigner. In the UK older brothers and sisters donot feel so responsible to help out.
It is a kind of collective social support system. Like all things, at its best it works really well and is wonderful. At its worst, people can use the situation to manipulate, control and abuse. e.g. younger ones take advantage of the commitment of the older ones, and dont go out to work, or older one uses emotional blackmail "I helped you in the past, now you have to do what I say".
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23 Feb 2008 Sat 02:26 am |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey:
It is a kind of collective social support system.
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You are right about what you are saying Marion, but catwoman has a point too.
All those respect doesn't stay as respect only.
There are many things attached to that respect.
Most of the times, not listening to your elders or not doing what they want you to do is considered disrespectful.
Most of the times it turns into many battles with the elders if you want to break free.
You feel suffocated. You feel limited. You know they were wrong and they want you to do the same errors.
And it is better sometimes what is wrong is learnt by youngsters. not by advice.
Basically, this entire respect thing should not be over exaggerated.
Boundries should be set clearly.
And what those boundries are, should not be left to elders.
Otherwise they will just try to make you exactly same as themselves.
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24 Feb 2008 Sun 06:59 am |
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I appreciate all of you taking the time to explain to me, it now makes sense. 
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24 Feb 2008 Sun 08:29 am |
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Quoting portokal: |
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