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25 Feb 2008 Mon 01:35 pm |
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Quoting peace train: With regard to the issue of the action Turkia has taken in it's neighbour's country. What would Turkia think/do if the roles were reversed? |
We are telling Iraqi Government that (1) the Turkish incursion is against the PKK only and (2) Iraqi civilians will not be targeted, unless they take up arms against Turkish Army and (3) This operation will not turn into a permanent occupation.
Iraqi Government damn well knows that it is not possible for Iraq to take care of her own terrorists themselves.
Iraq can trust Turkia and allow this military attack on terrorism or they can trust PKK more and fight with them against the Turkish Army.
Turkia can not care less, one way or the other...Besides, dont take Iraqi Government too seriously. Their demand of Turkish Army withdrawal is a political show for their own public. Messages they send to Turkia are very different.
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 01:49 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting peace train: With regard to the issue of the action Turkia has taken in it's neighbour's country. What would Turkia think/do if the roles were reversed? |
We are telling Iraqi Government that (1) the Turkish incursion is against the PKK only and (2) Iraqi civilians will not be targeted, unless they take up arms against Turkish Army and (3) This operation will not turn into a permanent occupation.
Iraqi Government damn well knows that it is not possible for Iraq to take care of her own terrorists themselves.
Iraq can trust Turkia and allow this military attack on terrorism or they can trust PKK more and fight with them against the Turkish Army.
Turkia can not care less, one way or the other... |
I would have said 'let me play devil's advocate' but I am a missionary  . I think you assumed I was trying to put an opinion forward. That was not my objective.
btw . . . you would make a good politician . . . you didn't answer my question. I will repeat it for you Polly
What would Turkia think/do if the roles were reversed?
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:30 pm |
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PT,
Check message number 8...if that does not answer your question,
Turkia would have had identical choices that Iraq has today.
1. Side with world peace and let Iraq sort out the Turkish terrorists that we can not handle ourselves,
2. Side with our own terrorists, fight against the Iraqi Army.
Happy?
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:31 pm |
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Quoting elham: Quoting CANLI: İ agree that the whole İraqi government is bunch of puppet,but that does not give anyone the right to have free picnics in THEİR lands ! |
I do not agree with you my dear Canli, at least our goverenment Had no activity with Israel, perhaps you say that because you prefer Saddam to this government
anyway my friend I respect your view
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İ dont get what you are saying my friend,
İ mean what is the difference between USA and İsrael ?!
Both taking what doesnt belong to them!
İts true we have diplomatic relation with İsrael,but we dont have İsrael in our country!
And actually,i cant answer your question too ..
İts not for me to answer it
Saddam was dictator,and killing his own people also,with a corrupted government serving his goals first
But is the other alternative to have a foreign country invading my country,and putting a puppet government,serving alos the foreign country interests ?!
My dear,
İ dont blame you,nor accuse you of anything,what is happening in İraq is the whole world shame!
But dont tell me this government working for İraqi's interests!
İts government ruled by USA my friend,so dont worry about just activities with İsrael 
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:35 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting peace train: With regard to the issue of the action Turkia has taken in it's neighbour's country. What would Turkia think/do if the roles were reversed? |
We are telling Iraqi Government that (1) the Turkish incursion is against the PKK only and (2) Iraqi civilians will not be targeted, unless they take up arms against Turkish Army and (3) This operation will not turn into a permanent occupation.
Iraqi Government damn well knows that it is not possible for Iraq to take care of her own terrorists themselves.
Iraq can trust Turkia and allow this military attack on terrorism or they can trust PKK more and fight with them against the Turkish Army.
Turkia can not care less, one way or the other...Besides, dont take Iraqi Government too seriously. Their demand of Turkish Army withdrawal is a political show for their own public. Messages they send to Turkia are very different. |
AlphaF that was good lol
''Iraq can trust Turkia and allow this military attack ''
What normal country,people would do or accept this ?!
İ know i wouldnt,and i know you wouldnt too !
But here we are not talking about normal stiuations nor normal country...
İm afraid that is such an ugly game,and even in normal stiuations ,i would NEVER accept what you said,but in this case...
İ believe yes,if Türkiye didnt protects her borders,she will be sorry about it !
Sad but true 
And also,you are right,if USA approved on this military operation,then USA government in İraq approves too
İts just an ugly game,in an ugly stiuation,and Türkiye has choosen the ugly solution that she can only have !
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:38 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: The Iraqi government has called for Turkey to withdraw its troops from northern Iraq.
A statement by Nuri al-Maliki's government on Sunday urged Turkey "to withdraw its forces from Iraqi soil as soon possible", describing the military operation as "a threat to Iraqi sovereignty".
"The government of Iraq calls on Turkey to respect its sovereignty and unity and considers that the unilateral operation across the border is a threat to the region," the statement said.
It came after Turkey's military warned Iraqi Kurds not to shelter Kurdish fighters fleeing its offensive.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/59AC0E17-3E99-406B-A2F5-5AAE0C69FEF2.htm |
sovereignty??? do they still think they have sovereignty. if there were a terrorist group, fighting against Greece,from turkey, what would happen??? it s really funny they call theirselves as goverment. who governs who? or who they govern? who accept them as a government.
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:43 pm |
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Stop and think Canli..I mean no offense !
With all respect, can you say Iraq is a normal country nowadays?
The only reason we have these problems today lies in the answer to this question.
Iraq had 30 years to stop PKK. That is enough time for a friendly neighbor, a sovereign country and a capable government.
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:45 pm |
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Quoting janissary:
sovereignty??? do they still think they have sovereignty. if there were a terrorist group, fighting against Greece,from turkey, what would happen??? it s really funny they call theirselves as goverment. who governs who? or who they govern? who accept them as a government. |
janissary,its normal demand,you actually cant blame them,even if they dont actually mean it...
But İraqi people sure want it,they dont want another war in their country,but at same time,they cant grantee to protect their borders too
As i said,what happen there in İraq is the whole world shame .
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:48 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: PT,
Check message number 8...if that does not answer your question,
Turkia would have had identical choices that Iraq has today.
1. Side with world peace and let Iraq sort out the Turkish terrorists that we can not handle ourselves,
2. Side with our own terrorists, fight against the Iraqi Army.
Happy? |
Not really Polly
you said in post 10
"Iraqi Government damn well knows that it is not possible for Iraq to take care of her own terrorists themselves."
If what you say is true, it does not mean there are only 2 courses of action. Siding with world peace is a good start, but there needs to be more creative thinking. You are an intelligent man Polly . . . start creating .
p.s. I've had enough now .. .have a nice peaceful day 
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:52 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Stop and think Canli..I mean no offense !
With all respect, can you say Iraq is a normal country nowadays?
The only reason we have these problems today lies in the answer to this question. |
Read my post again AlphaF,
Quoting CANLI:
But here we are not talking about normal stiuations nor normal country...
İm afraid that is such an ugly game,and even in normal stiuations ,i would NEVER accept what you said,but in this case...
İ believe yes,if Türkiye didnt protects her borders,she will be sorry about it !
Sad but true
And also,you are right,if USA approved on this military operation,then USA government in İraq approves too
İts just an ugly game,in an ugly stiuation,and Türkiye has choosen the ugly solution that she can only have ! |
And i know if you allow this to work through normal channels,you will be sorry about it,and even will have more problems too
So actually,i cant blame Türkiye,she must protect herself from the expected and unexpected too !
But i also cant accept it...
What to do ?
Bilmiyorum!
İts dilemma
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25 Feb 2008 Mon 02:52 pm |
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peace train,
What is this Polly shit?
Be serious and polite, if you want decent replies...or get lost !
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