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Nevruz
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27 Mar 2008 Thu 07:17 pm |
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We have been celebrating Nevruz in whole Central Asia and Iran for thousands of years as the first day of spring.
It's also believed that Turkish people could go out from Ergenokon that day.
However, somebodies want to turn the first day of spring into winter !!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGIzDQhmi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzCDQC6RaI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTNHIaPvhs&feature=related
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27 Mar 2008 Thu 11:35 pm |
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Quoting Müjde: We have been celebrating Nevruz in whole Central Asia and Iran for thousands of years as the first day of spring.
It's also believed that Turkish people could go out from Ergenokon that day.
However, somebodies want to turn the first day of spring into winter !!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGIzDQhmi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzCDQC6RaI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTNHIaPvhs&feature=related
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That was wonderful Mujde! Thank you very very much. I needed that.
That feast was amazing. Made me very hungry.
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27 Mar 2008 Thu 11:44 pm |
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Quoting Müjde: We have been celebrating Nevruz in whole Central Asia and Iran for thousands of years as the first day of spring.
It's also believed that Turkish people could go out from Ergenokon that day.
However, somebodies want to turn the first day of spring into winter !!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGIzDQhmi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzCDQC6RaI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTNHIaPvhs&feature=related
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bunu açıkladığın için çok teşekkürler..
yanlış biliniyor dış çevreler tarafından..
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27 Mar 2008 Thu 11:45 pm |
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Absolutely marvellous, Mujde: pls. explain this video to us, that would give more insights!! Merci, tesekurler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGIzDQhmi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzCDQC6RaI&feature=related
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28 Mar 2008 Fri 05:15 pm |
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Lessons taught by the Nevruz experience:
As I watched the television last Friday, there was one scene that made me think hard.
It was the first day of Nevruz celebrations in the South East. Tens of thousands of people were celebrating merrily. Fires had been lit and there was a lot of dancing. For the first time in years, Nevruz was being celebrated in relative calm. There were some people here and there who shouted slogans in favor of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and others that yelled “long-live Apo,†referring to the terrorist PKK's imprisoned leader Abdullah Öcalan. Those voices, however, were being drowned by the jubilance of the large crowd.
It was at such a moment that F-16 fleets began to tour the sky in formations of four. This upset the crowd. People began to join the demonstrators. Would the PKK miss such an opportunity? They provoked the people into such a frenzy that Nevruz celebrations were transformed into a bloody PKK show.
The incident was not limited to Friday either.
During the weekend, the fighting spread to other towns as well. The police reacted with violence on the pretext that demonstrations had been unauthorized. The number of protestors grew each time the police hit one of them. As the number of protestors grew, so did the incident. The whole region was turned into a battleground. Nevruz celebrations that started so well went out of control.
What we witnessed was a typical vicious circle.
I wonder if we are doing the right thing.
I wonder if we do not make things worse sometimes by reacting so violently to demonstrators.
Even people with the slightest knowledge of social psychology say, “Do not do that. You would be provoking people needlessly.â€
This practice is not new.
It happens almost every year at Nevruz.
Yet, it is so wrong.
Yes, it is a crime to manifest in favor of Apo.
However, if you do not rise to the bait, the demonstrators are likely to disperse after having yelled and shouted for a while.
The police could also devise methods other than coshing people to take them into custody.
Don't aggressive reactions help the PKK more than anything else?
I have heard several chiefs of police who served in the region say the same thing:
“This is not the right way to fight the PKK. We can attract people to our side by capturing their hearts and not by threatening them. If we maintain this attitude, we will not get anywhere. To the contrary, we will be helping the terrorist organization.â€
The same scenario repeated itself this Nevruz, too.
We either fail to learn from experience or we want the things to turn out like this. (!)
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=100187
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05 Apr 2008 Sat 12:14 pm |
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I wonder why the writer of this article hadnt mentioned about another celebrations all around the Turkey and Central Asia.?!!
Anyway.....
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05 Apr 2008 Sat 10:41 pm |
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Quoting Müjde: I wonder why the writer of this article hadnt mentioned about another celebrations all around the Turkey and Central Asia.?!!
Anyway..... |
You are right müjde. they cant write anything about other ethnic groups in europe. I havent seen any news or article about turks in balkans, only kurds and other ethnic groups in turkey. also this web site became a "kurd issue research" webpage. nodody mentions about turks in north iraq. here they created a world for themselves and only some subjects are being talked, not turkish language. at first it was a turkish language language but not anymore.
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05 Apr 2008 Sat 10:52 pm |
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Quoting janissary: You are right müjde. they cant write anything about other ethnic groups in europe.
This website is about Turkey  |
Quoting janissary:
I havent seen any news or article about turks in balkans, |
Actually that would be nice to read about! Why dont you post some?
Quoting janissary:
at first it was a turkish language language but not anymore. |
This has to do with members showing less interest in language these days  You cant force people to learn a language, can you? And some members who have been here longer, like Daydreamer, deli, Lynda, me, and many others, who used to fill language forums with questions etc. in the past, have now learnt quite a lot So maybe the ones in the past have just learnt enough for a while, and no new members have come
Hopefully we will soon start with more language-topics though, topics are being thought of and discussed thorougly these days
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05 Apr 2008 Sat 11:34 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting janissary: You are right müjde. they cant write anything about other ethnic groups in europe.
This website is about Turkey |
Quoting janissary:
I havent seen any news or article about turks in balkans, |
Actually that would be nice to read about! Why dont you post some?
Quoting janissary:
at first it was a turkish language language but not anymore. |
This has to do with members showing less interest in language these days You cant force people to learn a language, can you? And some members who have been here longer, like Daydreamer, deli, Lynda, me, and many others, who used to fill language forums with questions etc. in the past, have now learnt quite a lot So maybe the ones in the past have just learnt enough for a while, and no new members have come
Hopefully we will soon start with more language-topics though, topics are being thought of and discussed thorougly these days |
you dont get to point canım. coz there is no article about it. most of them are working on ppl in turkey when it comes to turkey everything is bad. everytime we have problems not others. we are "narrow minded". we live in an undevelopt country we can not think as u do. our brain just work for getting food
about language: maybe nowadays some ppl dont interested in language but mostly some members who contribute and help with language, left this website and some dont interest to write anymore coz of this situation. u dont wanna see it but ppl go and want to be deleted. did admin or you asked urself what's happening? you are on a wrong way deli kızın. you do somethings wrong on this website. there are some rules u cant change them, if this is a language website, u must work for it. if some members (as someone said most of the ppl) wanted to discuss politics or other things, admin dont have to accept it. there are millions of webpage for politics. if I convinced most of the members and asked for "porn forum", would u accept it again???
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06 Apr 2008 Sun 12:00 am |
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It looks like what is happening here is that nationalists (dipped in pure racist souce) can not find a subject by themselves.
They are just sitting there and watching if there is a topic posted about Turkey critical of Turkey..
And when you ask, 'why dont you post it then' as DK did, the answer is 'there is no article about it'..
But I should agree about norrow mindness of racists and nationalists.
Unfortunately it is the TRUTH!!
This is a website. People will come and go.
It is the nature of web.
I cant not see anything wrong about the rules and about the site..
It just seems to be attracting more toilet racists to come out.
Which is a good thing for them really!!
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