We have been celebrating Nevruz in whole Central Asia and Iran for thousands of years as the first day of spring.
It's also believed that Turkish people could go out from Ergenokon that day.
However, somebodies want to turn the first day of spring into winter !!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowruz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGIzDQhmi0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzCDQC6RaI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTNHIaPvhs&feature=related

Absolutely marvellous, Mujde: pls. explain this video to us, that would give more insights!! Merci, tesekurler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGIzDQhmi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzCDQC6RaI&feature=related

Lessons taught by the Nevruz experience:

As I watched the television last Friday, there was one scene that made me think hard.

It was the first day of Nevruz celebrations in the South East. Tens of thousands of people were celebrating merrily. Fires had been lit and there was a lot of dancing. For the first time in years, Nevruz was being celebrated in relative calm. There were some people here and there who shouted slogans in favor of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and others that yelled “long-live Apo,” referring to the terrorist PKK's imprisoned leader Abdullah Öcalan. Those voices, however, were being drowned by the jubilance of the large crowd.

It was at such a moment that F-16 fleets began to tour the sky in formations of four. This upset the crowd. People began to join the demonstrators. Would the PKK miss such an opportunity? They provoked the people into such a frenzy that Nevruz celebrations were transformed into a bloody PKK show.

The incident was not limited to Friday either.

During the weekend, the fighting spread to other towns as well. The police reacted with violence on the pretext that demonstrations had been unauthorized. The number of protestors grew each time the police hit one of them. As the number of protestors grew, so did the incident. The whole region was turned into a battleground. Nevruz celebrations that started so well went out of control.

What we witnessed was a typical vicious circle.

I wonder if we are doing the right thing.

I wonder if we do not make things worse sometimes by reacting so violently to demonstrators.

Even people with the slightest knowledge of social psychology say, “Do not do that. You would be provoking people needlessly.”

This practice is not new.

It happens almost every year at Nevruz.

Yet, it is so wrong.

Yes, it is a crime to manifest in favor of Apo.

However, if you do not rise to the bait, the demonstrators are likely to disperse after having yelled and shouted for a while.

The police could also devise methods other than coshing people to take them into custody.

Don't aggressive reactions help the PKK more than anything else?

I have heard several chiefs of police who served in the region say the same thing:

“This is not the right way to fight the PKK. We can attract people to our side by capturing their hearts and not by threatening them. If we maintain this attitude, we will not get anywhere. To the contrary, we will be helping the terrorist organization.”

The same scenario repeated itself this Nevruz, too.

We either fail to learn from experience or we want the things to turn out like this. (!)

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=100187

I wonder why the writer of this article hadnt mentioned about another celebrations all around the Turkey and Central Asia.?!!

Anyway.....

It looks like what is happening here is that nationalists (dipped in pure racist souce) can not find a subject by themselves.
They are just sitting there and watching if there is a topic posted about Turkey critical of Turkey..

And when you ask, 'why dont you post it then' as DK did, the answer is 'there is no article about it'..

But I should agree about norrow mindness of racists and nationalists.
Unfortunately it is the TRUTH!!

This is a website. People will come and go.
It is the nature of web.
I cant not see anything wrong about the rules and about the site..
It just seems to be attracting more toilet racists to come out.
Which is a good thing for them really!!

I am not gonna respond fully to your post Janis. If you have any problems with me being an administrator, then you can send your complaints to the other administrators Catwoman and Admin. As far as youre concerned, it is not for you to decide what can and cannot be discussed on this webpage.

If you think people are only here, and should only be here, to learn the language, then what are you doing? According to you they shouldn't read about your ant. And why did you bother to post it? Ohh ofcourse, you wanted them to translate Now I get it But Atatürk? It's not like whatever he said is suitable for the general level of our languagelearners here, is it? So why post it? Because you want to spread the word about Turkey. That's fine. Turkish politics is about Turkey too. But apparantly that's not fine.

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gernas, please explain your ideas in a less aggressive way without insulting users of the website.

Then I dont get your previous post

I dont know who deleted that message, but I believe it to be a right decision.

I wont answer all of you one by one. you have a group here. always defending each other. if ı write something to deli kızın, daydreamer replies it. if I write to catwoman or daydreamer handsome replies it. u all complete each other. very nice organisation. congradulations!

whatever u say, there is a reality. whoever I ask why they left the website. answers are same. I dont mean the ppl who deleted coz of dirty messages. but u still dont want to see it.

about admin I dont believe there is an admin on this site. if there was he would do somethings. I have read many interestng posts (I dont think admin, cares about what some ppl write) on this web site, only some part of posts deleted by him (?). if u dont say something dirty or swear at someone, u can say whatever u want. if someone says something, personal attact, immediately one of the members of your group deletes it. but it s ok if someone attacks us personaly coz we deserve it.

Using the word fascist reminded me something actually:
Can yucel was taken to the court for using indicent words in his writings. He used turkish word 'got' which means ass.

Below is from his defence:
in a village, there was a person who was ill with the temperature.
They take him to the town and the doctor prescribed the medicine and said that he should take it from anus.
They go back to the village but nobody seems to know what anus is. And they decide to telephone the doctor.
They get scared abit to speak on the phone but in the end, muhtar of the village phones the doctor.
he goes 'I am sorry but we dont know what to do with the medicine'
doctors goes 'give it from his makat(another word for ass in turkish)'
he shuts the phone but again nobody knows what makat is in the village ,they ask other villages too..and the patiant is in serious condition, in pains.
he calls again but he says to everybody 'doctor is going to be angry with me this time'
and he asks the doctor again and then shuts the phone , completely red faced.
he says 'I knew he would get angry. He said 'shove it in his ass'.

what a pity admins of this site behave just like turkish state courts and RTUK... maybe even you admins couldn't stand that i used "newroz" instead of "nevruz" ha? hundreds are taken into custody every year just cos they use letters "w" and "o" in bills, posters and pancartes!

the agressive/offensive words i used were, "stupid/idiot/fascist"... and i believe such minor words of agression shouldnt be a good reason to delete that post in which of course i was trying to make a point!

a kurdish activist in his defense before a judge said, "the only place what we say gets listened is courts"...

Müjde is a moderator, not an admin. That means she cant decide who enters and who leaves the website.

If you want to become a moderator, just PM one of the administrators. If you ahve problems about one, you can do the same.

Keith is fascists for defending Türkiye and NOW Müjde is racist for REFUSİNG to separate her country,her homeland ?!
What is REALLY going on here ?!

PS:Keith,i dont totaly agree with you in many of the political aspects,everyone is entitled to his opinions.
But form what i see,as a Mod you are doing a great job in trying to keep TLC calm as much as possible
Thank you for that
Being Mod doesnt mean you cant have your own opinions,but you try to moderate the forum,trying to keep peacful realtionships between members
Trying to keep it calm,and as i said,i believe you are doing great job .