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Ataturk or Khomeini?
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 05:54 pm

In one of the television channels in Turkey, during an interview, apperantly two women said that they like Khomeini and they dont like Ataturk!!
And now the state prosecuter is after them..

Law no. 5816, “Anyone who publicly insults or curses the memory of Atatürk shall be imprisoned with a sentence of between one and three years. … If the crimes outlined in the first article are committed by a group of two or more individuals, or publicly, or in public districts or by means of the press, the penalty imposed will be increased by a proportion of one half.”

Now, what do you make of this?

Can you make people love somebody with law?

Since liking/loving/hating etc can be called feelings, can you put people into jail because the way they feel?

The news itself:
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=144651&bolum=101



2.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:10 pm

I guess it is happening in the US as well.

http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2007/August/200708311549421xeneerg8.655947e-02.html

How terrible and unfair.

How could this happen handsom? Especially in the "land of the Free"...

Quoting thehandsom:

In one of the television channels in Turkey, during an interview, apperantly two women said that they like Khomeini and they dont like Ataturk!!
And now the state prosecuter is after them..

Law no. 5816, “Anyone who publicly insults or curses the memory of Atatürk shall be imprisoned with a sentence of between one and three years. … If the crimes outlined in the first article are committed by a group of two or more individuals, or publicly, or in public districts or by means of the press, the penalty imposed will be increased by a proportion of one half.”

Now, what do you make of this?

Can you make people love somebody with law?

Since liking/loving/hating etc can be called feelings, can you put people into jail because the way they feel?

The news itself:
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=144651&bolum=101



3.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:14 pm

Here is another nice little article that you may enjoy...

Arrested for insulting the flag... go figure?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D05E1DD1E3FE433A2575BC2A9659C946996D6CF

As you can see, what you posted once again to start a charged topic applies to the world in general.

4.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:16 pm

Swiss men gets 75 years for insulting the Thai king...

Gee, maybe us Turks should go to Thailand to learn their tactics...

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/swiss-man-faces-75-years-jail-for-insulting-thai-king/

Another proof for you to realize that all these topics you post as problems inTurkey are actually a global problem.

5.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:19 pm

And here is the thread-busting Euro sample of freedom of speech...

Finnish blogger gets 2 years for insulting Islam... is the title of the article.

http://europenews.dk/en/node/10851

6.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:21 pm

Check this out...
Another gem from Europe - this time victim is a Polish priest ...

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6945201/Polish-Radio-priest-faces-jail.html#abstract

See how global the epidemic is?

7.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:45 pm

Quoting cynicmystic:

I guess it is happening in the US as well.

http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2007/August/200708311549421xeneerg8.655947e-02.html

How terrible and unfair.

How could this happen handsom? Especially in the "land of the Free"...


Are you sure of this link says that it is hapening in the usa?

8.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:46 pm

Quoting cynicmystic:

Here is another nice little article that you may enjoy...

Arrested for insulting the flag... go figure?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D05E1DD1E3FE433A2575BC2A9659C946996D6CF

As you can see, what you posted once again to start a charged topic applies to the world in general.


This news is from 1918. lol

9.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:47 pm

Yeah that's how old the problem is...

The latest version is Abu Garib...

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:49 pm

Quoting cynicmystic:

Swiss men gets 75 years for insulting the Thai king...

Gee, maybe us Turks should go to Thailand to learn their tactics...

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/swiss-man-faces-75-years-jail-for-insulting-thai-king/

Another proof for you to realize that all these topics you post as problems inTurkey are actually a global problem.


We should be better than Thailand for sure.
And because it is ALSO hapening in Thailand, do you think we should just say 'ah..look..same shit is going on in Thailand as well..It is fine then'?

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