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140.       subconscious
11 posts
 22 Apr 2006 Sat 10:06 pm

Quoting Aenigma:

Subconscious - my point, if you can understand, was...if you were talking about snobbery, what was the relevance in discussing Iraq? You ran out of arguments, so decided to use a different subject to anger the English eh? Your other comment about my parents does not make sense, sorry, and i wont give you the satisfaction of replying to such a childish, personal attack.



I think the problem is with the concept "snobbery". we use this word for critising all bad things.
I didn't attack you personally! ıt was your comments about me personally at first!
"I am sure I could sling some mud back to you if I were as insensitive and inarticulate as you."[

141.       Lyndie
968 posts
 22 Apr 2006 Sat 10:28 pm

Quoting Kadir37:

Bu adamın hayatı çok sıkıcı olmaya başladı. :-S




hangi adamdan bahsediosun?

142.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 22 Apr 2006 Sat 10:35 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

Quoting Kadir37:

Bu adamın hayatı çok sıkıcı olmaya başladı. :-S




hangi adamdan bahsediosun?


look at the topic : Life of a Turkish Man

143.       Lyndie
968 posts
 22 Apr 2006 Sat 10:45 pm

Thank you very much uYkuSuz. I am sure this is the man to whom Kadir refers! :_D

144.       Kadir37
0 posts
 22 Apr 2006 Sat 10:46 pm

145.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Apr 2006 Sat 11:06 pm

Hmmm, class in Türkiye?? Unfortunately it happens, but we can't help it. It's not the fault of the educated and somehow economically "high class" people. It's just a result, but I don't think as a whole the Turks look upon another one. Turks are very emotional people and always feel very sorry and try to help when they see someone in a bad condition.
However, you can observe the kind of snobbery that you see in the nurses in women towards some men, but according to me it's because women encounter a lot of harassment from especially uneducated and "low classed" men. And I can imagine how many men harass especially those nurses, in Türkiye nurses are seen a bit like easy women. Turkish girls sometimes really have reason to be so snobbish towards men even tough sometimes it looks very rude.

146.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Apr 2006 Sun 02:02 am

I think the chance for snobbery in Türkiye is actually higher. The differences in income are much bigger in Türkiye than the ones in the UK. The difference between wealth and poorness, that is. Therefore snobbery from higher up on the lower classes is more likely, because there is more difference. Who whould be bothered to look down up on someone who may not wear designer shoes, but practically lives next door and pays the same rent?

And subconscious, yours wás a personal attack and also a rude reaction to Lyndie, which was totally unappropriate.

I also agree with Meltem about the educational part. We mustn't forget.. you cannot help it if you can't afford education or if you just don't have the capacity to study more. Nobody can be blamed for that. But there's one thing we easily forget.. education puts you in a certain environment which really affects your behavior. So even if you are interested in culture and have good ideas about life, the chance that you will be in the 'group' of 'uneducated ones' and have a, partly, similar lifestyle, is likely. This ofcourse doesn't count for everybody, don't get me wrong. I don't want to be seen as someone who thinks very black white, because i don't. But in a discussion like this (about the turkish man, not the whole snobbery-iraq-ware-i-have-no-more-arguements-so-i-made-this-up-discussion), it is impossible not to speak a little bit in general. Because yes. I am high educated, following the highest education possible, getting quite good grades, very likely to also earn my master degree within time. But i don't know life half as much as those men in Türkiye.

147.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Apr 2006 Sun 02:08 am

Quoting Kadir37:

Thread is "Life of a Turkish Man" and you see peoples fight here.[/I]



There really is a difference between fighting and having a discussion, Kadir37 Try not to mix these two up, otherwise you'll ask for peace in times we need to negotiate

148.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Apr 2006 Sun 02:29 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Kadir37:

Thread is "Life of a Turkish Man" and you see peoples fight here.[/I]



There really is a difference between fighting and having a discussion, Kadir37 Try not to mix these two up, otherwise you'll ask for peace in times we need to negotiate



Someone here on this site has the nasty habit to think every comment i make on someone else is made with bad and mean intentions. But the comment i made on this not being a fight, was added with two big smiles '', so I am sure Kadir37 understood that i was kidding and not trying to make him feel like he is silly. Just to put things straight, i didn't mean that Kadir37 is silly.. not at all. I think someone here should learn the interpretation of my comments better, instead of attacking me with personal comments i make on others. If you'd read through all my posts (which are many more than you would want to read, because u are obviously annoyed with my presence), you'd notice i never insulted someone, only answered them what their reactions deserved from my point of view. And the fact we can speak with honesty on this site, obeying the site-rules, is what makes the discussions worth (therefore i also agree with Lyndie about putting back the my turkish bf/gf thread.

I won't mention your name, because then you will be annoyed with me once again, but do me a favour, stop thinkign that i have mean intentions with everything i say, and that when i critisize someones OPINION, that i don't actually hate that person or think that person is silly.

That's what you seem to think of me. Now thát is silly

Kadir37: And thanks for your poetry-PM.

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