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140.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 04:51 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

What don´t you understand, I thought I made myself perfectly clear...  I believe everyone deserves a chance in life.....Why is that so hard to comprehend?  You don´t have to agree..

 

You did NOT answer my question. I asked, and will repeat it here in a simple form. Do you believe the government should have the right to intrude on a woman´s choice? Are you for a candidate that would take that choice away?

141.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 04:51 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Well then you are fortunate that you could make this decision financially, not everyone can.  Believe me I taught my son the exact same things and were there for everyone of his highs and lows.   You can still have a career and be a mother.

 

 Isn´t it great that she had the CHOICE to stay home when her children were young?  To make the decision that was right for her?

142.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 04:58 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Once again I believe if you are raped or just don´t want a baby because it´s inconvienent for you, then give it up for adoption.  I believe everyone deserves a chance in life.....Why is that so hard to comprehend?  You don´t have to agree..

 

 Teas you are saying we don´t have to agree with you but you want legislation that forces women to have a child when it is not right for them....no matter WHAT the situation is.   You want forced agreement! 

Not everyone feels the same as you!!  Why should we have to live with the consequences of the beliefs of people who think like you when it is not what we believe?  

It is and should always be a personal choice for the woman dealing with the situation!!

143.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 05:01 pm

 

Quoting alameda

You did NOT answer my question. I asked, and will repeat it here in a simple form. Do you believe the government should have the right to intrude on a woman´s choice? Are you for a candidate that would take that choice away?

 

Alameda, when will you stop talking DOWN to people?  No one here needs you to speak simplisticly.  Teas disagrees with you and your beliefs, it does NOT mean she is stupid and can´t understand...maybe she just didn´t think she needed to answer you.

You can´t force someone to answer your questions....you of all people should know that.

144.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 05:13 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Teas you are saying we don´t have to agree with you but you want legislation that forces women to have a child when it is not right for them....no matter WHAT the situation is.   You want forced agreement! 

Not everyone feels the same as you!!  Why should we have to live with the consequences of the beliefs of people who think like you when it is not what we believe?  

It is and should always be a personal choice for the woman dealing with the situation!!

 

 I agree.

 

And seriously,  may I add something to the melting pot?

 

What about the father´s rights?  Some women spend a great deal of time trying to get equality with men; ensuring men play an equal role in household and family life.  Does this extend to decision making when termination is being considered?  Is there a difference between the potential father being half of a one night stand and being half of a very loving and committed couple?

 

These kinds of considerations are so difficult and I know every situation is different, as I´ve mentioned elsewhere.

 

I wondered what men thought about the issue too.

145.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 06:56 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

Alameda, when will you stop talking DOWN to people?  No one here needs you to speak simplisticly.  Teas disagrees with you and your beliefs, it does NOT mean she is stupid and can´t understand...maybe she just didn´t think she needed to answer you.

You can´t force someone to answer your questions....you of all people should know that.

 

 I am trying to get her to actually admit if she is in favor of legislation that would force a female to bear a unwanted pregnacy to term.

 

She has used weasle terminology, like......."I believe everyone deserves a chance in life...." to avoid admiting if her agenda actually is to inflict on millions of females...(note I do not say women because there have been children as young as 6 who have conceived.) forced child bearing.  Saying you believe....is more of an abstract term....sort of like "I believe for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows"...or I believe I can fly"...so just what does she mean by her "I believe"?

 

If she is raped and inpregnated and wants to keep it, even if it has a condition that is unviable, that´s her choice. I do not feel that choice should be forced on everyone else. In fact, I find it horrifying to seriously consider that prospect. The implications are huge!

146.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 07:53 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 I am trying to get her to actually admit if she is in favor of legislation that would force a female to bear a unwanted pregnacy to term.

 

 

To admit? She not confessing, you are not her priest! She is not in court, you are not her judge.

 

Try a different tactic, called: asking polite (and I don´t think words like ´weasle´ are polite!)

147.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 08:06 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

To admit? She not confessing, you are not her priest! She is not in court, you are not her judge.

 

Try a different tactic, called: asking polite (and I don´t think words like ´weasle´ are polite!)

 

 Ok, how about clarify her position?

 

As for "weasle", it is an relatively new word for when one trys to be nonspecific....they are called "weasle words" and are used to evade a direct statement.

 

Given the gravity of the situation, I hardly think I am being impolite when the status of millions of females is at stake.

 

 

148.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 08:09 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Well then you are fortunate that you could make this decision financially, not everyone can.  Believe me I taught my son the exact same things and were there for everyone of his highs and lows.   You can still have a career and be a mother.

 

 See once again you are jumping to conclusions!  You are making the assumption that I was well off!  Actually no we were not.  But why should I have to account to you? 

 

I have had enough of your preaching for one day or even one year.

 

One last time!  I have been a mother who brought up her children and I have a career and I managed that without resorting to childcare!

 

And in all of this, the child placed in a child care situation, what is his or her choice in this may I ask?  Do they say at 6 months old "I would prefer to be brought up by a stranger or I would really like my mother to be with me"?

 

And why is it so wrong that a mother should want to bring up her own children?  Children go to school at 4/5 years old, so it is not the end of the world a little time for them is it??????

149.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 08:20 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 Ok, how about clarify her position?

 

As for "weasle", it is an relatively new word for when one trys to be nonspecific....they are called "weasle words" and are used to evade a direct statement.

 

Given the gravity of the situation, I hardly think I am being impolite when the status of millions of females is at stake.

 

 If Teaschip does not want to answer you, or anyone else, who are you to demand that? God?

 

New word or not, I think giving the characteristics we think of a weasle, it is very impolite to use that word for a human. Apparently you don´t respect all human beings.

150.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 08:32 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 If Teaschip does not want to answer you, or anyone else, who are you to demand that? God?

 

New word or not, I think giving the characteristics we think of a weasle, it is very impolite to use that word for a human. Apparently you don´t respect all human beings.

 

 Get real will you? Are you just trying to pick a fight or what? I did not demand she answer...and she said she answered the question which she did not. At least I want her to think about the implications herself. It is possible she has not thought about that.

 

And fruther more when millions of women´s lives are at stake, I´m not worried about being polite!

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