Im not trying to cause uproar or offence but Im just curious??? I have heard from a Turkish friend that people can put a curse on another person?? Is this true ?? Is it really done using the koran as I have said I dont know anything about this subject I dont even know the Turkish name for this proceedure.However If this is true can a curse ever be reversed???Im very curious about what all this entails so if anyone understands what i mean please feel free to comment

I don´t know anything about (cursing) spells in Turkey but I do know that in other Islamic countries in Africa there are ´medicine men´ who use texts from the Koran for their spells. I´ve been - out of curiosity - to such a man in The Gambia and he gave me an amulet, I think called ju-ju, with a Koran text sewed in it. It was a protective spell, so I can imagine that if they use it the good way there are also people who use them the bad way, for putting a curse on someone.

I guess it would help if I knew the name of this. I dont know if its a spell or a curse. The people I spoke to in Turkey definately believe in this. Im really curious and intrigued by this. I have also heard that the "spell" is forbidden but people still do it !!!!!!!!!!!!! Please somebody give me some info

It is quite common.  I have a friend who is convinced that another woman put a curse on her husband when they got engaged, because the woman wanted to marry him too.  Since their marriage her husband has had a lot of bad back problems, and my friend is sure it is the curse.  She explained to me that people go to a hoca and ask him to do it.

OMG.... this is the weirdest thing I´ve heard in days...

there are so many kinds of curses that i know, but i dont know what/how it is called. i`ve met soo many men who actually do this, but i`m not sure about turks since the turks i`m with are conservative types. men have this prayer thing (they said its from the Koran) and when they get an eye-to-eye with a woman, they read it in their minds and the woman will fall in love with them.. some also go to some witches, or hags, or anything (its hoca in turkey i think) and they are the one doing those..

He is not hoca,he/she call him/herself that

People who believes in such things and deal with so called hoca in bad or good,those who encourage and give them opportunities to work their ways 

Their main aim is to make people believe in their power and to take money from people and convince them with some suppositious things,so they be under their mercy.

Ýts forbidden to deal with such people in islam.

They dont cast the spell/curse using Kur´an,but imams use some Kur´an verses to cure it, -if it happened-  .

Yes, such beliefs exist. Even the prophet Mohammed was under a spell once for months.

Okay thanks for everybodys response. I am very intrigued by this. I have a personal experience I have have a very important person in my life who i have known for 11 years. His behaviour has changed dramatically within months. I spoke to many of his friends and the rumour going around the village was that somebody close to him had put this spell on him. I say "spell" as this is the name they used to explain it to me. At first I thought they were winding me up. As time as gone on Ive started to believe that the friends of my friend are right in what they are saying. He has become a different person so quickly  and i have no explanation.So if this is the case how could I get this reversed??? Does my friend have to go himself or could somebody close to him go????

In turkish it´s called "büyü"= spell. "Büyü yapmak"= to do a spell. Büyü can be a bad or good spell.  Personally I do not believe these kinds of things. It can be reversed by someone else, but I don´t know how.

ok thanks. How can i say" under a spell"???

 We call for someone who is under a spell as "büyü yapýlmýþ", forexample if he´s called Ali   --> "Ali´ye büyü yapýlmýþ". And "to break a spell" = "büyü bozmak".

In Islam "büyü" exists, and there are some prays, Quran verses to break the spell. It´s said that the people under a spell have been influenced by the demon. There are people who break it for money, and these people usually take advantage of other people. Do not believe the spell breaking recipes either like take one spoon of bla bla and mix it with the nails of the one under spell. These are witch kind of things. So, if you really believe spell, you should ask someone who knows what she/he´s doing, and someone who does not do it commercially for money.

 In Islam "büyü, büyü yapmak, büyü bozdurmak" does not exist, and to believe this kind of superstitions are strictly forbidden.

 Were you there while this was happening? Thats not the truth, no support except some concocted hadiths, in fact Quran clearly denies this.

A "curse" is merely psycological and won´t work unless the person believes in such things and KNOWS about it!  If they are suitably paranoid, the "curse" will work it´s magic on that person´s psyche. 

With all the paranoid people we have on this site, there is rich pickings for everyone!

 I do not have any speciel knowledge or interest in these kind of things, but I said that it existed according to some information I found. And according to many web pages which give examples from Kuran-ý Kerim, to my understanding it appears that Islam acknowledges the existence of "büyü", but it has been banned to do spell and to go to people who do it.

It has been advised to say Ihlas, Felak and Nas sures against the spell. They are just the sures in which you say that you turn to God and take shelter in him.

"Büyü vardýr, yani tesir edebilir. Ancak haramdýr. Ýslam büyü ve büyücülüðü yasaklamýþtýr. Büyü öðrenenler hakkýnda Kura´an-ý Kerim þöyle buyurur:

"Kendilerine zarar verecek, faydalý olmayacak þeyleri öðreniyorlar." (Bakara Suresi:102)

Allah Resulü, aralarýnda þirkinde bulunduðu yedi büyük günah arasýnda büyü yapmayý da saymýþtýr.( Buhari, Vesaye;23)"

Kur´an-ý Kerim ve peygamberimizin hadislerinden bazý þeyler okuyarak yapýlmýþ büyüleri bozmak câizdir. Allah Resullüne yapýlan büyü felak ve nas süreleri okunarak bozulmuþtur.( Medariku´- Tenzil Felak Suresi)
Kur´an-ý Kerim, bize büyücülerin þerrinden Allah´a sýðýnmamýzý öðretmiþ ve bu konuda þöyle buyurmuþtur. "Düðümlere üfleyen büyücülerin þerrinden Allah´a sýðýnýrým de."(Felak Suresi; 4)"

And more about it: http://www.webhatti.com/din/172157-islamda-buyunun-hukmu.html

 Pastafarians neither acknowledge it´s existence or condone those who do!

 I didn´t understand anything from what you wrote.

 I didn´t understand much of what you wrote either - but enjoy the mutual respect we extend to eachother as muslims and pastafarians

I think you are wrong about the existance and belief but the forbidden thing is to do it.

yeah yeah.. i heard abotut hese things, i heard they especially use felak ut im not sure

The part you quoted my post, is not directed to you , anyway.

This is the famous verse 2:102 which people try to sculpture through the history in order to prove that büyü(btw i mean büyü by supernatural powers) exists in Kuran. If the people accept that büyü exists in Kuran, yields a crooked comment like "making büyü is haram but disfunctioning büyü can be" which opens a door for fake hocas to gain more money. Besides this claim also supported with concoted hadiths that the one you gave in your post, tries to show prophet was affected by büyü.

Actually this verse´s aim is not büyü but condemning the jews(as they were slandered to Solomon and fabricated a story) and the superstitions if one reads verses from the beginning. The part of verse you quoted that the thing Harut & Marut taught, can be interpreted differently, so one should look at the concept of Kuran before commenting. By the way this verse (Harut and Marut part) falls into group of "müteþabbih" verses which mentioned in 3/7 in Kuran. There are different comments on who Harut and Marut are, some say they are Babylonian kings(meliks), some say they are angels, some say a kind of symbolic language and metaphors used. Namely we cant say there is büyü in Kuran according to this verse, in fact we need to say there is no büyü in Kuran since its against the sunnetullah and sunnettullah never changes. In Kuran Allah allude that büyü is nothing but charlatanry(see parable of Musa).

If one says büyü is an art of "turning people into puppets whose all choices are taken from" using supernatural powers, that means you attribute divinity to the one who make büyü, which is completely þirk. And in that verse the thing revealed to Harut&Marut taught, is vague, can be anything except supernatural powers because of the reasons i mentioned above according to Kuran. And the rebellious ones(demons) teaching magic which was hoodwinking. We also understand from this verse that Babylon was a civilisation where superstitions were widespreaded and that idolatry tradition afftected the other civilisations , so it is comdemned by this verse.

Another example of so-called büyü is, hypocrites made a büyü(active propogand), and convinced people that Aisha made adultery so that new verses revealed. Then are "all the things happened" independent from people´s freewill? Of course not, they contributed to this slandering campaign by their free-will and desire.

So I think the entire story of Harut&Marut is "Hazaliat" nothing but falsehood. Magic, amulets, ghoul, demon possession, exorcism,witchcraft, fortune telling, evil eye, palm reading are nothing but conjecture. Superstitions can harm people by becoming self-fulfilling prophecies.

And an acceptable commentary of 2/102(in Turkish);

These hadiths are clear cut slander to Kuran. You cant find any proof in Kuran that alludes prophet was under the effect of büyü. And Kuran clearly denies the claims of müþriks who said prophet was affected by büyü;

81/22: And your companion is not gone mad.

34/46: Say: I exhort you only the one thing, that rise up for Allah´s sake in twos and singly, then ponder: there is no madness in your fellow-citizen, he is only a warner to you before a severe chastisement.

7/184: do they not reflect? Their companion is not seized with madness, he is but a perspicuous warner.

Kuran also decipheres the ones who slandered to prophet by saying he is under the affect of büyü;

25/8-9: "Or(why) has not a terasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched." See what kinds of comparisons they make for thee! But they have gone astray, and never a waywill they be able to find!

17/47-48: We know best what it is they listen, when they listen thee; and when they meet in private, behold, the wicked say, "Ye follownone other than a man bewitched!" See what similes they strike for thee: bu they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.

Bu arada herkese iyi bayramlar ...

 Sene de,iyi bayramlar,ve bayramýn hayýrlý olsun

Lol thanks for your post it was hard for me to take in  what does this mean

"Büyü vardýr, yani tesir edebilir. Ancak haramdýr. Ýslam büyü ve büyücülüðü yasaklamýþtýr. Büyü öðrenenler hakkýnda Kura´an-ý Kerim þöyle buyurur:

 Magic/sorcery exists, i.e. it can have an effect.  But it is forbidden.  Islam has forbidden magic and sorcery. The Holy Quran orders the following concerning those who learn magic:

Thanks Marion your help is always very much appreciated. Your a real Turkish class Star big thanksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss