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"Büyü vardýr, yani tesir edebilir. Ancak haramdýr. Ãslam büyü ve büyücülüðü yasaklamýþtýr. Büyü öðrenenler hakkýnda Kura´an-ý Kerim þöyle buyurur:
"Kendilerine zarar verecek, faydalý olmayacak þeyleri öðreniyorlar." (Bakara Suresi:102)
The part you quoted my post, is not directed to you  , anyway.
This is the famous verse 2:102 which people try to sculpture through the history in order to prove that büyü(btw i mean büyü by supernatural powers) exists in Kuran. If the people accept that büyü exists in Kuran, yields a crooked comment like "making büyü is haram but disfunctioning büyü can be" which opens a door for fake hocas to gain more money. Besides this claim also supported with concoted hadiths that the one you gave in your post, tries to show prophet was affected by büyü.
Actually this verse´s aim is not büyü but condemning the jews(as they were slandered to Solomon and fabricated a story) and the superstitions if one reads verses from the beginning. The part of verse you quoted that the thing Harut & Marut taught, can be interpreted differently, so one should look at the concept of Kuran before commenting. By the way this verse (Harut and Marut part) falls into group of "müteþabbih" verses which mentioned in 3/7 in Kuran. There are different comments on who Harut and Marut are, some say they are Babylonian kings(meliks), some say they are angels, some say a kind of symbolic language and metaphors used. Namely we cant say there is büyü in Kuran according to this verse, in fact we need to say there is no büyü in Kuran since its against the sunnetullah and sunnettullah never changes. In Kuran Allah allude that büyü is nothing but charlatanry(see parable of Musa).
If one says büyü is an art of "turning people into puppets whose all choices are taken from" using supernatural powers, that means you attribute divinity to the one who make büyü, which is completely þirk. And in that verse the thing revealed to Harut&Marut taught, is vague, can be anything except supernatural powers because of the reasons i mentioned above according to Kuran. And the rebellious ones(demons) teaching magic which was hoodwinking. We also understand from this verse that Babylon was a civilisation where superstitions were widespreaded and that idolatry tradition afftected the other civilisations , so it is comdemned by this verse.
Another example of so-called büyü is, hypocrites made a büyü(active propogand), and convinced people that Aisha made adultery so that new verses revealed. Then are "all the things happened" independent from people´s freewill? Of course not, they contributed to this slandering campaign by their free-will and desire.
So I think the entire story of Harut&Marut is "Hazaliat" nothing but falsehood. Magic, amulets, ghoul, demon possession, exorcism,witchcraft, fortune telling, evil eye, palm reading are nothing but conjecture. Superstitions can harm people by becoming self-fulfilling prophecies.
And an acceptable commentary of 2/102(in Turkish);
Özet olarak bu ayetin manasi basindan sonuna kadar su sekilde anlasilmaktadir: Yahudiler Kur’an’i yalanladilar ve ondan yüz çevirdiler. Kur’an’a karsilik Hz. Süleyman ve mülkü hakkinda, onlarin çarpik zihniyetli alimlerinden isittikleri hurafeler ve efsaneleri(1) yaymaya çalistilar. Hz. Süleyman (as)’in küfre girdigini iddia ettiler. Oysa Hz. Süleyman (as) küfre girmemisti. Fakat onlarin tabi olduklari seytanlari (önderleri) küfre girdiler ve insanlara sihri ögretmeye ve sihrin Harut ve Marut’a indigini iddia etmeye basladilar. O ikisini melek olarak isimlendirmislerdi. Onlara hiç bir sey indirilmedigi halde, insanlara kendilerinin salihlerden olduklari zannini yerlestirdiler. Halkin, onlari iyilik etmekten baska maksatlari olmayan ve kendilerini küfürden korumaya çalisan kimseler olduklarini sanmalari için ugrastilar. O ikisinden ögrendikleri hile ve desiseler, kendilerinin insanlar arasina tefrika sokabileceklerine halki inandiracak derecedeydi. Görüyorsunuz ki ifadelerin hepsi burada zemm (kinama, yerme) içindir ve ayetin Harut ve Marut’un medhi, övgüsü hakkinda varid oldugu düsüncesi dogru degildir. Bunlarin yani yukaridaki sözlerimizin dogruluguna, Kur’an’in Allah indinden insanlara bir sey ögretmek için -peygamberlere indirilen vahiy disinda- yeryüzüne melek indirildigini reddetmesini gösterebiliriz. Kur’an, insanlara talim için kendi cinsinden birinin gönderildigini sarih nasslarla ortaya koymaktadir: "Senden önce, insanlarin disinda elçi göndermedik; onlara vahyediyorduk. Bilmiyorsaniz zikir/vahiy ehline sorunuz." (Enbiya 21:7) Yine Melek indirilmesi seklindeki istekleri Kur’an geri çevirmistir: "Ona bir melek indirilmeli degil miydi!," diyorlar. Bir melek indirseydik, is bitirilmis olurdu. Onlara zaman da verilmezdi." (En’am 6:8) Furkan Suresinde de Allah teala söyle buyurmaktadir: "Söyle dediler: "Bu ne biçim peygamber ki yemek yer, sokaklarda gezer? Ona, beraberinde bulunup uyaran bir melek indirilseydi ya! Yahut, kendisine bir hazine verilseydi, veya beslenecegi bir bahçe olsaydi ya!" Bu zalimler, inananlara: "Siz sadece büyülenmis bir adama uyuyorsunuz" dediler. Sana nasil misaller getirdiklerine bir bak! Onlar sapmislardir, yol bulamazlar." (Furkan 25:7-9)
Allah Resulü, aralarýnda þirkinde bulunduðu yedi büyük günah arasýnda büyü yapmayý da saymýþtýr.( Buhari, Vesaye;23)"
Kur´an-ý Kerim ve peygamberimizin hadislerinden bazý þeyler okuyarak yapýlmýþ büyüleri bozmak câizdir. Allah Resullüne yapýlan büyü felak ve nas süreleri okunarak bozulmuþtur.( Medariku´- Tenzil Felak Suresi)
These hadiths are clear cut slander to Kuran. You cant find any proof in Kuran that alludes prophet was under the effect of büyü. And Kuran clearly denies the claims of müþriks who said prophet was affected by büyü;
81/22: And your companion is not gone mad.
34/46: Say: I exhort you only the one thing, that rise up for Allah´s sake in twos and singly, then ponder: there is no madness in your fellow-citizen, he is only a warner to you before a severe chastisement.
7/184: do they not reflect? Their companion is not seized with madness, he is but a perspicuous warner.
Kuran also decipheres the ones who slandered to prophet by saying he is under the affect of büyü;
25/8-9: "Or(why) has not a terasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched." See what kinds of comparisons they make for thee! But they have gone astray, and never a waywill they be able to find!
17/47-48: We know best what it is they listen, when they listen thee; and when they meet in private, behold, the wicked say, "Ye follownone other than a man bewitched!" See what similes they strike for thee: bu they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.
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