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22 Nov 2008 Sat 03:49 pm |
I dont understand something, but before i can say what i dont understand i ahve to say what i DO understand so you can get it (confusing, eh?)
Anyway:
In turkish the possessor thake sthe ending -in or -nin if it ends in a vowel right?
it´s like the english your, and doudi´s , right?
and the posessed takes the ending -i or -si if it nds ina vowel like would this sentence be right?
kýzýn annesi- the girl´s mother
right?
Now, some thing i dont get is how i can add the possessive endings to personal pronouns, i know that theyre like benim and senin and onun and bizim and sizin and onlarýn but i dont get how they can be used in the senytence, i mean how we can replace them with the possessor and if i use it does the possessed get an ending?
also I know that you can add the ending s -i,-e,-de, and -dan to personal pronouns, but then the biggest problem comes
I get confused between beni and benim, which is me and which is my and is there a mine in there?
like öp beni is kiss me? or is it beni öp? or is it npot even beni?
see how stupid i am???? Im sorry but i get confused on how they are used in sentences and stuff..
help! Plzzzzzzzzzzzzz!I hope i explained myself good :S
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:02 pm |
Possessors:
You just keep adding endings.
My auntie: teyzem
My auntie´s pen: teyzem-in kalem-i = teyzemin kalemi
Your brother´s car: kardeþinin arabasý
Our house´s roof: evimizin çatýsý
v.b.
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:06 pm |
Possessors:
You just keep adding endings.
My auntie: teyzem
My auntie´s pen: teyzem-in kalem-i = teyzemin kalemi
Your brother´s car: kardeþinin arabasý
Our house´s roof: evimizin çatýsý
v.b.
yes than k you i get that part but i dont get the possessor pronouns, like beni and benim these things...
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:22 pm |
Another question :
There are 2 present tenses i turkish right?
The -iyor one and -r,
(this is how the -r one is formed right? cause i just learnt it :
we take the stem and add -r ,-er , and -ir
I just dotn egt which take -ir and which take -er)
My question is when do we use the -iyor and when do we use the -r?
and can smbdy give me some examples for the -r cause im very confused!
thx 
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:57 pm |
Doudi-go to the language forum-look at the 4th subject(past progressive) by bayan_güleç and go to the 4th post by melek. there is an explanation for when to use the different present tenses there.
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:09 pm |
Doudi-go to the language forum-look at the 4th subject(past progressive) by bayan_güleç and go to the 4th post by melek. there is an explanation for when to use the different present tenses there.
Thx!!!
but still wondering about the possessives ....
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:12 pm |
Quoting : melek
You use the present continuous tense (-iyor) for:
- describing something happening now (Futbol oynuyorlar. - They are playing football.)
- stating an unchanging fact (Sigara kullanmýyorum. - I don´t smoke.)
- describing a habitual or repeated action (Sýl sýk plaja gidiyorum. - I often go to the beach.)
- describing something that will happen soon (Bu akþam geliyorum. - I´m coming this evening.)
You use the -r (aorist) present tense in the following cases:
- making promises (Sana dondurma alýrým. - I´ll buy you an ice-cream)
- saying you´re willing to do something (Yardým ederim. - I´ll help.)
- saying you intend to do something (Yarýn gelirim. - I´ll come tomorrow.)
- requesting someone to do something (Kapýyý açar mýsýnýz? - Would you open the door?)
- offering something to someone (Çay içer misiniz? - Would you like to drink some tea?)
- set phrases, such as Teþekkür ederim, tebrik ederim, etc.
- telling stories or jokes (Üç erkek bara girerler .... - Three men go into a pub...)
- expressing possibility or hope (Belki gelir. - Maybe he´ll come.)
- describing an unchanging fact (Su 0 C altýnda donar. Water freezes below 0 degrees.)
- describing an habitual or repeated action (Sýk sýk plaja giderim. - I often go to the beach.)
i just posted it here so everything´s in one place  
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:14 pm |
Quoting : melek
You use the present continuous tense (-iyor) for:
- describing something happening now (Futbol oynuyorlar. - They are playing football.)
- stating an unchanging fact (Sigara kullanmýyorum. - I don´t smoke.)
- describing a habitual or repeated action (Sýl sýk plaja gidiyorum. - I often go to the beach.)
- describing something that will happen soon (Bu akþam geliyorum. - I´m coming this evening.)
You use the -r (aorist) present tense in the following cases:
- making promises (Sana dondurma alýrým. - I´ll buy you an ice-cream)
- saying you´re willing to do something (Yardým ederim. - I´ll help.)
- saying you intend to do something (Yarýn gelirim. - I´ll come tomorrow.)
- requesting someone to do something (Kapýyý açar mýsýnýz? - Would you open the door?)
- offering something to someone (Çay içer misiniz? - Would you like to drink some tea?)
- set phrases, such as Teþekkür ederim, tebrik ederim, etc.
- telling stories or jokes (Üç erkek bara girerler .... - Three men go into a pub...)
- expressing possibility or hope (Belki gelir. - Maybe he´ll come.)
- describing an unchanging fact (Su 0 C altýnda donar. Water freezes below 0 degrees.)
- describing an habitual or repeated action (Sýk sýk plaja giderim. - I often go to the beach.)
i just posted it here so everything´s in one place  
BTW thats what it also says in my book but.. its soo hard to understand , do i ahve to think before speaking then?? Thats soo hard!!!!!!
Oh and i also still dont know when to add -er and when to add -ir, i knw just -r when theres a vowel but the other 2 no.. :S
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:32 pm |
Oh and i also still dont know when to add -er and when to add -ir, i knw just -r when theres a vowel but the other 2 no.. :S
It depends on how long the word is.
You already know that if a word ends in a vowel, you just add -r.
Now for short (1 syllable) words you usually add -ar or -er. For example: bak-ar. There are 13 exceptions to that rule and those are:
gel-ir, al-ýr, bil-ir, var-ýr, gör-ür, kal-ýr, bul-ur, ver-ir, öl-ür, vur-ur, ol-ur, san-ýr, dur-ur.
For longer words, you add -ir, -ýr, -ür, -ur, depending on vowel harmony. For example: çalýþ-ýr, sevin-ir.
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22 Nov 2008 Sat 06:29 pm |
It depends on how long the word is.
You already know that if a word ends in a vowel, you just add -r.
Now for short (1 syllable) words you usually add -ar or -er. For example: bak-ar. There are 13 exceptions to that rule and those are:
gel-ir, al-ýr, bil-ir, var-ýr, gör-ür, kal-ýr, bul-ur, ver-ir, öl-ür, vur-ur, ol-ur, san-ýr, dur-ur.
For longer words, you add -ir, -ýr, -ür, -ur, depending on vowel harmony. For example: çalýþ-ýr, sevin-ir.

Now ill cry!!
Thats soo hard!
Can i trouble you and ask you for some examples???
I mean in sentnces ?
I loved turkish for the whole no exceptions things! (unlike french!!!! )
and like situations to show the difference between the 2 suffixes -iyor and -r ???
Thank you !!!
I know its too much to ask for!!!
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