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1.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 03:49 pm

I dont understand something, but before i can say what i dont understand i ahve to say what i DO understand so you can get it (confusing, eh?)

Anyway:

 In turkish the possessor thake sthe ending -in or -nin if it ends in a vowel right?

it´s like the english your, and doudi´s , right?

 

and the posessed takes the ending -i or -si if it nds ina  vowel like would this sentence be right?

 

kýzýn annesi- the girl´s mother

right?

 

Now, some thing i dont get is how i can add the possessive endings to personal pronouns, i know that theyre like benim and senin and onun and bizim and sizin and onlarýn but i dont get how they can be used in the senytence, i mean how we can replace them with the possessor and if i use it does the possessed get an ending?

 

 

also I know that you can add the ending s -i,-e,-de, and -dan to personal pronouns, but then the biggest problem comes

 

I get confused between beni and benim, which is me and which is my and is there a mine in there?

 

like öp beni is kiss me?  or is it beni öp? or is it npot even beni?

 

 

see how stupid i am???? Im sorry but i get confused on how they are used in sentences and stuff..

help! Plzzzzzzzzzzzzz!I hope i explained myself good :S

2.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:02 pm

Possessors:

 

You just keep adding endings.

 

My auntie: teyzem

 

My auntie´s pen: teyzem-in kalem-i = teyzemin kalemi

 

Your brother´s car: kardeþinin arabasý

 

Our house´s roof: evimizin çatýsý

 

v.b.

3.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:06 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

Possessors:

 

You just keep adding endings.

 

My auntie: teyzem

 

My auntie´s pen: teyzem-in kalem-i = teyzemin kalemi

 

Your brother´s car: kardeþinin arabasý

 

Our house´s roof: evimizin çatýsý

 

v.b.

 

yes than k you i get that part but i dont get the possessor pronouns, like beni and benim these things...

4.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:22 pm

Another question :

 

There are 2 present tenses i turkish right?

The -iyor one and -r,

(this is how the -r one is formed right? cause i just learnt it :

 

we take the stem and add -r ,-er , and -ir

I just dotn egt which take -ir and which take -er)

 

My question is when do we use the -iyor and when do we use the -r?

 

and can smbdy give me some examples for the -r cause im very confused!

 

thx

5.       sonunda
5004 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:57 pm

Doudi-go to the language forum-look at the 4th subject(past progressive) by bayan_güleç and go to the 4th post by melek. there is an explanation for when to use the different present tenses there.

6.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:09 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

Doudi-go to the language forum-look at the 4th subject(past progressive) by bayan_güleç and go to the 4th post by melek. there is an explanation for when to use the different present tenses there.

 

Thx!!!{#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

but still wondering about the possessives ....

7.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:12 pm

                                                                                                            Quoting : melek

 

 

You use the present continuous tense (-iyor) for:

- describing something happening now (Futbol oynuyorlar. - They are playing football.)

- stating an unchanging fact (Sigara kullanmýyorum. - I don´t smoke.)

- describing a habitual or repeated action (Sýl sýk plaja gidiyorum. - I often go to the beach.)

- describing something that will happen soon (Bu akþam geliyorum. - I´m coming this evening.)

 

You use the -r (aorist) present tense in the following cases:

- making promises (Sana dondurma alýrým. - I´ll buy you an ice-cream)

- saying you´re willing to do something (Yardým ederim. - I´ll help.)

- saying you intend to do something (Yarýn gelirim. - I´ll come tomorrow.)

- requesting someone to do something (Kapýyý açar mýsýnýz? - Would you open the door?)

- offering something to someone (Çay içer misiniz? - Would you like to drink some tea?)

- set phrases, such as Teþekkür ederim, tebrik ederim, etc.

- telling stories or jokes (Üç erkek bara girerler .... - Three men go into a pub...)

- expressing possibility or hope (Belki gelir. - Maybe he´ll come.)

- describing an unchanging fact (Su 0 C altýnda donar. Water freezes below 0 degrees.)

- describing an habitual or repeated action (Sýk sýk plaja giderim. - I often go to the beach.)

 

 

i just posted it here so everything´s in one place

8.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:14 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

                                                                                                            Quoting : melek

 

 

You use the present continuous tense (-iyor) for:

- describing something happening now (Futbol oynuyorlar. - They are playing football.)

- stating an unchanging fact (Sigara kullanmýyorum. - I don´t smoke.)

- describing a habitual or repeated action (Sýl sýk plaja gidiyorum. - I often go to the beach.)

- describing something that will happen soon (Bu akþam geliyorum. - I´m coming this evening.)

 

You use the -r (aorist) present tense in the following cases:

- making promises (Sana dondurma alýrým. - I´ll buy you an ice-cream)

- saying you´re willing to do something (Yardým ederim. - I´ll help.)

- saying you intend to do something (Yarýn gelirim. - I´ll come tomorrow.)

- requesting someone to do something (Kapýyý açar mýsýnýz? - Would you open the door?)

- offering something to someone (Çay içer misiniz? - Would you like to drink some tea?)

- set phrases, such as Teþekkür ederim, tebrik ederim, etc.

- telling stories or jokes (Üç erkek bara girerler .... - Three men go into a pub...)

- expressing possibility or hope (Belki gelir. - Maybe he´ll come.)

- describing an unchanging fact (Su 0 C altýnda donar. Water freezes below 0 degrees.)

- describing an habitual or repeated action (Sýk sýk plaja giderim. - I often go to the beach.)

 

 

i just posted it here so everything´s in one place

 

BTW thats what it also says in my book but.. its soo hard to understand , do i ahve to think before speaking then?? Thats soo hard!!!!!!

Oh and i also still dont know when to add -er and when to add -ir, i knw just -r when theres a vowel but the other 2 no.. :S

9.       Melek74
1506 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 05:32 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Oh and i also still dont know when to add -er and when to add -ir, i knw just -r when theres a vowel but the other 2 no.. :S

 

It depends on how long the word is.

 

You already know that if a word ends in a vowel, you just add -r.

 

Now for short (1 syllable) words you usually add -ar or -er. For example: bak-ar. There are 13 exceptions to that rule and those are:

gel-ir, al-ýr, bil-ir, var-ýr, gör-ür, kal-ýr, bul-ur, ver-ir, öl-ür, vur-ur, ol-ur, san-ýr, dur-ur.

 

For longer words, you add -ir, -ýr, -ür, -ur, depending on vowel harmony. For example: çalýþ-ýr, sevin-ir.

10.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 06:29 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

It depends on how long the word is.

 

You already know that if a word ends in a vowel, you just add -r.

 

Now for short (1 syllable) words you usually add -ar or -er. For example: bak-ar. There are 13 exceptions to that rule and those are:

gel-ir, al-ýr, bil-ir, var-ýr, gör-ür, kal-ýr, bul-ur, ver-ir, öl-ür, vur-ur, ol-ur, san-ýr, dur-ur.

 

For longer words, you add -ir, -ýr, -ür, -ur, depending on vowel harmony. For example: çalýþ-ýr, sevin-ir.

{#lang_emotions_head_bang}

Now ill cry!!

Thats soo hard!

Can i trouble you and ask you for some examples???

I mean in sentnces ?

I loved turkish for the whole no exceptions things! (unlike french!!!!)

and like situations to show the difference between the 2 suffixes -iyor and -r ???

 

 

Thank you !!!

I know its too much to ask for!!!

 

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