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´Turkey is an imitation of the West´ Pamuk says
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:28 pm |
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But "living at the edge of Europe" also means that there is a great temptation to imitate Europe, to the detriment of one’s own culture. "Turkey is not a part of the West. I always repeat this and I will repeat it again, Turkey is an imitation of the West. Turkey has never been colonized by Europe and because we have no wounds [from colonization], it is easier to have praise for Europe. Atatürk himself was a perfect occidentalist."
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http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10607679.asp?scr=1
im still trying to find out what you wanna say here 
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:31 pm |
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thats what i thought at the beginning. that the definition from wikipedia contradicts with post of thehairy.
you`re right, femme the christian missionary, for the first time ever.
"even a broken clock is right two times a day"
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:34 pm |
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"even a broken clock is right two times a day"
this seems to be your favorite saying... is it helpful? 
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:36 pm |
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I think vineyards was talking about catwoman
god bless vineyards
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:38 pm |
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this seems to be your favorite saying... is it helpful?
no it`s not my favorite saying. as a matter of fact, I`m always right, unlike most of you tc folks
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:49 pm |
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im still trying to find out what you wanna say here
I was not trying to say anything at all..
I just saw the article, I thought it might be a good subject to talk if ´Turkey is immitation of the west´, if ´it is part of the west´, if ´we have been colonized by the west at all´ etc.
People with no inferior complex about their identity could find something to talk about it..
Maybe it was a mistake from my part..
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:14 pm |
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I was not trying to say anything at all..
I just saw the article, I thought it might be a good subject to talk if ´Turkey is immitation of the west´, if ´it is part of the west´, if ´we have been colonized by the west at all´ etc.
People with no inferior complex about their identity could find something to talk about it..
Maybe it was a mistake from my part..
what i really mean is that i just didnt understand the article.
anyway, it doesnt matter now.
because the person wrote the article doesnt speak the whole truth. and i personally dont think ataturk was an occidentalist if we take the definition from wikipedia. thats all. it just didnt make sense to me.
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:16 pm |
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you`re right, femme the christian missionary, for the first time ever.
strange, this time you forgot to add "fascist"  or you dont use it when you agree with me 
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:16 pm |
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god bless vineyards
ah dear, lets hope so
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:17 pm |
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strange, this time you forgot to add "fascist" or you dont use it when you agree with me
exactly!
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:30 pm |
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what i really mean is that i just didnt understand the article.
anyway, it doesnt matter now.
because the person wrote the article doesnt speak the whole truth. and i personally dont think ataturk was an occidentalist if we take the definition from wikipedia. thats all. it just didnt make sense to me.
well obviously he did not take the definition from wiki femme..
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