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10.       cooldude
77 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 01:50 am

It's me again, ooops don't know what happened in the quote first time I have ever used it!!!! Why are some letters ???? ll I did was click on quote.

11.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 02:05 am

Quoting cooldude:

It's me again, ooops don't know what happened in the quote first time I have ever used it!!!! Why are some letters ???? ll I did was click on quote.

Having read the last sentence I am confused. I thought the verb always came at the end of the sentence not at the beginning. Please some-one help me out here.

Also why do you use the verb yas¸amak instead of oturmak. I only found out yesterday on the Manisa Turkish site that the verb oturmak meant to live until them I only knew it as to sit.

Thanks guys


maybe that s because of ur browser does not support turkish chars.

and u can use oturmak instead of yasamak .. but in that sentence yasamak is better..
its like :
where do u live ?
where re u stayin at ?

12.       cooldude
77 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 12:41 pm

But what about the verb formation?????

13.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 05:57 pm

Quoting cooldude:

But what about the verb formation?????



In these sentences the verb IS at the end. Look:

Dün aşkım denizde yüzdü ve burada yağmur var
Here you have two sentences - one ending with yüzdü (he swam) and the other with var (is)

Bu adil değil
değil can be understood as wasn't

Yaşadığınız yerde hava nasıl?
This sentence is more complicated. At the first glance it seems to end with nasıl (i.e adverb how) but it is easy to guess that English would use the verb is here. So, analysing the suffixes, we'd have: live-that-you place-in the weather how-(is).

N.B. Turkish omits the verb to be
in case of 3rd person singular, e.g.
Bu bir köpek (it is a dog)
Hava güzel (the weather is nice)

14.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 06:21 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:


Bu adil değil
değil can be understood as wasn't



Good explanation, just that 'değil' is present time


değil = wasn't
değil = isn't

15.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 09:59 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Good explanation, just that 'değil' is present time


değil = wasn't
değil = isn't



Oh! You're absolutely right Esther. What an embarrassing slip of the...finger

16.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 10:04 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Good explanation, just that 'değil' is present time


değil = wasn't
değil = isn't



Oh! You're absolutely right Esther. What an embarrassing slip of the...finger



Hehe I'm right for a change We'll both become Turkish language experts one day, I'm sure

17.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 10:04 pm

degil is neither " isn't " nor " wasn't
degil = not
kolay degil = not easy
zor degil = not hard.
o kadar zor degil = not that hard..
beni gormus degil = he didn't see me ..

18.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 10:10 pm

Quoting uYkuSuz:

degil is neither " isn't " nor " wasn't
degil = not
kolay degil = not easy
zor degil = not hard.
o kadar zor degil = not that hard..
beni gormus degil = he didn't see me ..



Yeah but we were referring to the text, in which 'isn't' would be quite logical. Still thanks for your explanation.. ohh im so not ready for sentences like beni gormus degil

19.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 10:24 pm

degil :
degil is like " not " " never ..
u hv to use it : sentence + degil or noun + degil or
adjective + degil ..

Generally we use it to say somethin with strong meaning like in that text..

examples of degil :
- yorulmuyorum degil ( i m getting tired )
- bu yazdıgın degil ( not the thing that u write now )

+ bunu sen mi yazdın dogru soyle
- ben yalancı degilim ( instead of i m sayin truth - i m not liar )

- kız nasıl ?
+ guzel degil ( instead of " she is ugly " )

u understand ??
--
uYkuSuz..

20.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Apr 2006 Fri 10:25 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:


Hehe I'm right for a change We'll both become Turkish language experts one day, I'm sure



I'm sure you'll soon become one as you'll soon be relocating to Turkey. I'll probably get old before mastering this language

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