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when to use yi ye ya etc
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 01:49 pm |
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although i have been in this site for a while i still dont understand the rules about using these please help me :-S with example sentences in turkish and then english please ta !im a simple girl and its the simple things that confuse me 
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 02:41 pm |
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I would like to learn too  Anyone to help us out?
I think you mean as in:
Alışveriş yapmaya istiyorum.
Yüzmeye seviyorum.
But when is it -ya- or when is it something else? It was explained somehwere before but i can't find it anymore, plus the fact that i still question it, means i still don't understand it.
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 04:07 pm |
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Hello Deli and Deli_kizin,
I am also a Turkish learner, and I am not an expert, but I will try to explain it as far as I understand it.
Well, You are talking about the following suffixes:
Accusative Case suffixes: -i/-ı/-u/-ü
The Accusative is the Direct Object of a Verb - it is translated as "the.." in English
Dative case suffixes: -a/-e
The Dative is the Case of Movement Towards - it is translated as "to., towards.." in English.
"y"- this is a buffer/fussion consonant for these suffixes when they are added to a verb that ends in a vowel.
The mosty important thing that You should understand about the use of these suffixes is to remember that some verbs require accusative case and other ones require dative case. I think this is the same thing as for example the use of "from, for, at, on, in" after an English verb.
For example,
In English we say:
"to participate in" - not "at"
"to strive for" - not simply "to strive"
"different from" - not "of"
and so on.
I hope someone will come with Turkish examples and English translations, and you will be able to understand it.
I hope someone will come with a more comprehensive answer.
And please tell me if I am wrong.
Best regards,
Mella
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:16 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: I would like to learn too Anyone to help us out?
I think you mean as in:
Alışveriş yapmaya istiyorum.
Yüzmeye seviyorum.
But when is it -ya- or when is it something else? It was explained somehwere before but i can't find it anymore, plus the fact that i still question it, means i still don't understand it. |
alışveriş yapmak istiyorum (has to be like this, the verb istemek doesnt need a suffix on the other word)
yüzmeyi seviyorum (not yüzmeye)
youd say though, yüzmeye gidiyorum= im going to swim
its just like seni and sana
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:32 pm |
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Quoting miss_ceyda:
its just like seni and sana |
I do understand the difference between seni and sana, and unless it is used different than English/Dutch in some cases (sana aşığım and not seninle..), i can use them both without making mistakes.
But i don't see the difference between
- yüzmeye
- yüzmeyi
In combination with gitmek and sevmek.. So how to know when to use which?
Also thanks to Mella
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:35 pm |
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Ohh wait.. do i understand it correct like this:
Quoting My great mind  :
Yüzmeyi seviyorum because:
Seni seviyorum.
I love to swim
I love you
Both sentences are in accusative state now, which makes yüzmek accusative as seni is accusative too, in combination with the verb -sevmek-
Yüzmeye gidiyorum because:
Sana gidiyorum.
I'm going to swim
I'm going to you
Both sentences are with dative state now.
If i got this correct, can someone make a few more examples like this? With different kinds of verbs i mean
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:36 pm |
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:37 pm |
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yüzmeyi seviyorum (not yüzmeye)
so is this saying = i love swimming ozur dilerim kafam karisiyor hala i need to see many examples before it will go in sorry guys and girls
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:39 pm |
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Quoting deli: yüzmeyi seviyorum (not yüzmeye)
so is this saying = i love swimming ozur dilerim kafam karisiyor hala |
Isn't it more like this:
01. Yüzmek seviyorum = I love swimming
02. Yüzmeyi seviyorum = I love to swim
Or does only number 2 exist and is number 1 not possible?
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04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:47 pm |
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If I remember correctly there is a lot of info to be found on that subject in the Mastar Hali thread.
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