Watch out with sev-iþ-mek.

 

Doesnt mean "we love each other" : it means to make love to one another.

 

Korean friend of mine shocked the Turks at church when she meant to say "Jesus wants us to love one another". She said "Ýsa birbirimize seviþmemizi istiyor."

Watch out with sev-iþ-mek.

 

Doesnt mean "we love each other" : it means to make love to one another.

 

 

Watch out with sev-iþ-mek.

 

Doesnt mean "we love each other" : it means to make love to one another.

 

Korean friend of mine shocked the Turks at church when she meant to say "Jesus wants us to love one another". She said "Ýsa birbirimize seviþmemizi istiyor."

Without complicating the matter, my understanding is this:  Once we can form an infinitive, with -mek at the end [in any shape - whether in commomn, causative, passive or reflexive form > yapmak, yaptirmak, yapilmak or yapinmak > we can then use the ´estabkished´ way of dropping the -mek, and use the remaining ´verb stem´ in order to manipulate it!?  IS THIS PRESUMPTION CORRECT?  

 

My problem was that I got it into my tiny head that ´Yikanmak´ only means ´to clean one self´ and that it CANNOT be used for any 2nd or 3rd person.  But that is not right. So:-

 

Reflexive [with Yika-n-mak]

 

(Ben) Yikandim                     I dressed myself

(Sen) Yikandi                        you dressed yourself

(O) Yikandi                           He/she/it cleaned themself

(Biz) Yikandiz                         We ... ourself

(Siz) Yikandiniz                     You all .... yourselves

Onlar) Yikandilar                  They .... themselves

 

or using ´Kendi´  i.e. using only the normal (common) infinitive ´Yikamak´

 

(Ben) Kendim yikadim             I clened myself       I washed by myself              

   kendimi yýkadým - I washed myself

(Sen)  Kendini yikadin             You ...        

(O) Kendisi  Yikadi                   He/she/it ...

      Kendizi Yikadik                  We ....

     Kendinizi Yikadiniz             You all ....

     Kendileri Yikadilar               They ....

 

[PLEASE GOD! TELL ME I HAVE GOT IT !!]

 

Passive    [using Yap-il-mek]

 

Yapildim               I was made

Yapildin

Yapildi

Yapildik

Yapildiniz

Yapildilar

 

If the ´doer´ is to be specified, we can add ´(falan) tarafindan´ [Note: No possesive if it ia proper Noun or using the possesive if it a personal pronoun e.g. Benim, senin, onun ... etc.]

 

I have used the Definite Past Tense to illustrate the point ... {but it will apply to all the tenses and moods}

 

 

 

Melek74´s examples >  [You are an angel 74]

 

1) Zerrin´i gördün mü, parti için nasýl da süslenmiþ! Did you see Zerrin? Just look how she has dolled herself up for the party!

 

2) Ýlkbaharda kýrlar çiçeklerle süslenir. In the spring the countryside adorns itself with flowers.

 

Suddenly did the trick for me!!!!!!!  Now who is going to tear me apart and throw me into a depression?

 

Tazx1

 You got is quite right, but I still made a correction about your examples with "kendi"

Yes I guess so but it´s called agent (doer) and object is patient. In passive voice patient (object of active voice) becomes subject. This is very basic grammar knowledge.

 

Yemek yendi (yemek=subject)

Ýþ yapýldý (iþ=subject)

Söz söylendi (söz=subject)

Kutu açýldý (kutu=subject)

 

By whow? It doesn´t matter. Unkown most of the times. That´s what passive voice is all about.

 So!  In ´Yemek yendi´ > yendi is Passive {the food was eaten] ... as obviously it cannot mean [the food ate itself] > but starngely ´Yendi´ in REFLEXIVE form will mean ´He/she/it did win´, he/she/it won, he/she/it defeated (something)

 

 

P.S.>  WHAT IS THE SAFEST WAY OF SAYING ... WE LIKE EACH OTHER??

 

IS IT >  ´Bibirimiz-e siviyoruz´  ?????

 

Tazx1