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10.       Faruk
1607 posts
 16 Feb 2009 Mon 07:38 am

Konmak has the same meaning of koyulmak. So, it is not a mistake, it is correct. But it is a passive verb.

 

An example:

 

Yemeðe tuz konur - Salt is added to meal.

11.       Tazx1
435 posts
 16 Feb 2009 Mon 08:30 am

Angel

 

Everyone has cleared the matter ... and the problem is solved.  But in addition here are two examples to confirm what has already been explained [and a bit extra]

 

 

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(1)   "...Kuþ bu öðütü verir, sonra yüksek bir dala konup þoyle bir þarký söyler"

(2)  "Bu taþlar üzerine bir buçuk meter uzunluðunda bir deðnek konulur"

 

Further note re Passive [GL Lewis]

 

The passive of compound verb formed with ´etmek´ is expressed either with tha passive ´ed-il-mek´ or with a passive-looking form of ´olmak´ > ´Olunmak´

 eg.  Tatbik olmak - to apply

        Tatbik olunuyor - it is being applied

        Tatbik ediliyor - it is being applied

 

The TWO common exceptions to this rule are Kaybetmek > passive = kaybolmak, & Tiraþ etmek > passive Tiraþl almak 

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There are further notes on Passive ... but no need for them.  Since you do not have the GL Lewis book, I copied it out for you ... and hopefully for anyone else having same problem

 

To any intermediate learner I can recommend G.L. Lewis "Turkish" ISBN0 340 05828 5 > This book is a bit ´dated´

but it is truly best described as an ´ocean in a teacup´ ... it is very very cheap too [say £3] and fast diappearing because Lewis died two years ago and no reprints now ´cos it is a bit old fashioned in places.  Get it.  Search E-Bay or Amazon.  A good second hand one is even cheaper ... I got two copies and never ever regretted ´lol´.

 

Tazx1

 

 

 



Edited (2/16/2009) by Tazx1 [typo]

12.       si++
3785 posts
 16 Feb 2009 Mon 09:39 am

 

Quoting Faruk

Konmak has the same meaning of koyulmak. So, it is not a mistake, it is correct. But it is a passive verb.

 

An example:

 

Yemeðe tuz konur - Salt is added to meal.

 

But it is also a reflexive verb.

 

Kuþ dama ko-n-du.

13.       si++
3785 posts
 16 Feb 2009 Mon 09:47 am

Koymak is a later development from ko-mak due to sound changes. The older form is ko-mak but they both can be used these days.

 

The following are based on ko-mak form

kuþkonmaz

konak

konuk

dedikodu

gecekondu

bir korsam oturturum

 

We are observing the similar sound change for ne (what) today.

 

ne-n var and ney-in var

daha ne-m olacaktýn bir tanem

ne-si var and ney-i var

ne-niz var and ney-iniz var

etc.

 

 

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