I´ve stumbled upon these sentences in one of the books I´m using:

Peki daha önce midenize bir teþhis kondu mu?

and

Evet, daha önce mideme ülser teþhisi kondu.

I understand the meaning of the sentences, however I´m confused about the use of "kondu". To make a diagnosis is (according to the dictionary) "teþhis koymak" and based on the dictionary definition the verb "konmak" doesn´t make much sense in this context (at least to me). So I´m wondering if the wrong verb was used in the sentence by mistake and if maybe it should have been "koyuldu" instead?

If it is indeed "kondu", I think I´m missing something.

Also, in the sentence: "Baþýnýz döndüðunde tok karna günde bir tane için.", the "tok karna" (I believe) means "on a full stomach". However, the dictionary says "tok karnýna" means "on a full stomach" - is it ok to skip the posessive ending in the original sentence or is it an error? 

If anybody can shed some light on it, I´d appreciate it.

Thanks. 

about the first sentence:

"konmak" and "koyulmak" are both acceptable passive forms of "koymak", where in the first case you omit the "y" and make the passive. So they are both right and interchangable.

And about "tok karna",

I think that´s a mistake, but it is used so commonly that it sounds very normal. But for sure correct one is "tok karnýna".

Thank you so much Dilliduduk.  

"konmak" and "koyulmak" are both acceptable passive forms of "koymak", where in the first case you omit the "y" and make the passive.

You can actually do that? Is that common practice? I mean can you do that with any verbs which stem ends in y? For example, duymak, can you make dunmak and duyulmak out of it for passive?

No, no, I think koymak is the only example for such a thing. I don´t know why.

What a relief, I was thinking about shooting myself for a while there.  One exception I can handle methinks.  

yes relax, there are always small exceptions, and actually Turkish has less exceptions/irregulars than most other languages, for example English.

Angel ... please don´t try and shoot yourself > Çok merak etmeyiniz, yarina kadar de beklemenize rica ederim lutfen. Þimdi çok telaþ ederken ateþ kaçirabiliyacak diye hiç kazanameyacaksiniz?

Listen, if you have G.L.Lewis [I think you have], see under ´Passive and Reflexive´, para [137] page 92 [according to my copy] ... there you will find a good explanation.

at the end of Lesson 9, see Ex. 9(A), sentence 5.  Aðýriniz geçer, inansiniz.

Tazx1

Is it the Lewis "Turkish Grammar"? I couldn´t find it there, we must have different copies

I can live with it being the exception, it works for me. lol

 Melek, senin ek sözluðun benden daha kadar uçuyor.

Konmak has the same meaning of koyulmak. So, it is not a mistake, it is correct. But it is a passive verb.

An example:

Yemeðe tuz konur - Salt is added to meal.

Angel

Everyone has cleared the matter ... and the problem is solved.  But in addition here are two examples to confirm what has already been explained [and a bit extra]

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(1)   "...Kuþ bu öðütü verir, sonra yüksek bir dala konup þoyle bir þarký söyler"

(2)  "Bu taþlar üzerine bir buçuk meter uzunluðunda bir deðnek konulur"

Further note re Passive [GL Lewis]

The passive of compound verb formed with ´etmek´ is expressed either with tha passive ´ed-il-mek´ or with a passive-looking form of ´olmak´ > ´Olunmak´

 eg.  Tatbik olmak - to apply

        Tatbik olunuyor - it is being applied

        Tatbik ediliyor - it is being applied

The TWO common exceptions to this rule are Kaybetmek > passive = kaybolmak, & Tiraþ etmek > passive Tiraþl almak 

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There are further notes on Passive ... but no need for them.  Since you do not have the GL Lewis book, I copied it out for you ... and hopefully for anyone else having same problem

To any intermediate learner I can recommend G.L. Lewis "Turkish" ISBN0 340 05828 5 > This book is a bit ´dated´

but it is truly best described as an ´ocean in a teacup´ ... it is very very cheap too [say £3] and fast diappearing because Lewis died two years ago and no reprints now ´cos it is a bit old fashioned in places.  Get it.  Search E-Bay or Amazon.  A good second hand one is even cheaper ... I got two copies and never ever regretted ´lol´.

Tazx1

But it is also a reflexive verb.

Kuþ dama ko-n-du.

Koymak is a later development from ko-mak due to sound changes. The older form is ko-mak but they both can be used these days.

The following are based on ko-mak form

kuþkonmaz

konak

konuk

dedikodu

gecekondu

bir korsam oturturum

We are observing the similar sound change for ne (what) today.

ne-n var and ney-in var

daha ne-m olacaktýn bir tanem

ne-si var and ney-i var

ne-niz var and ney-iniz var

etc.