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A Striking Poll About Turks!
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30.       chiko
135 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 12:11 pm

 

Quoting mltm

Social polls and statistics give very rough answers, going to abstract conclusions with some specific questions can be very misleading.

 

With different polls, I´m sure I can get two very opposite conclusions of a same society:

I can get "Turkish people are the most secular people" and by another poll I can get the conclusion: "The majority of turkish people are for Sharia"

 

Again with different polls, I bet I can have a conclusion that "Turks are the most hospitable people", while with different poll questions, I can conclude that "Turks are xenophobes"

 

If we want, we can make every single country xenophobe by simply a few polls asking a  few questions. I can make France racist, Germany racist, United States racist, Japan racist, every single country.

 

 

Polls are the most generalist, simplist and unrealiable way to make abstract conclusions such as xenophobe, racist, happy, sad, hostile, paranoic, hospitable, lovely about a society.

 

Apperantly you have no idea about "survey methods". do you think they go to a nationalist village in anatolia and ask people what they think about foreigners? do you think they dont  choose samples from every class of societyd every ideology? be sure they must have gone to either Niþantaþý or Yozgat for this poll. do you remember that Konda conducted a poll before 2007 election and its results were the closest to the election´s results.

31.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 12:21 pm

 

Quoting chiko

 

Apperantly you have no idea about "survey methods". do you think they go to a nationalist village in anatolia and ask people what they think about foreigners? do you think they dont  choose samples from every class of societyd every ideology? be sure they must have gone to either Niþantaþý or Yozgat for this poll. do you remember that Konda conducted a poll before 2007 election and its results were the closest to the election´s results.

 

 Hehe you are wasting your time Chiko.  You know very well that if the survey had shown good things about Turks, there would be no-one desputing the results! lol

32.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 12:32 pm

This thread is becoming a new ´what made you laugh´ thread lol

 

33.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 12:51 pm

 

Quoting chiko

 

Apperantly you have no idea about "survey methods". do you think they go to a nationalist village in anatolia and ask people what they think about foreigners? do you think they dont  choose samples from every class of societyd every ideology? be sure they must have gone to either Niþantaþý or Yozgat for this poll. do you remember that Konda conducted a poll before 2007 election and its results were the closest to the election´s results.

 

 Did I say something about the "samples", about the people surveyed?

 

I simply said that you cannot have a conclusion like the survey revealed that Turks are xenophobe with a few questions like "are you against foreign people having property in Turkey".

 

Carrying out a survey is another thing, interpreting it is another thing, and going to conlusions like a nation is xenophobe is a completely different thing.



Edited (2/24/2009) by mltm

34.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 12:54 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

Quoting chiko

 

Apperantly you have no idea about "survey methods". do you think they go to a nationalist village in anatolia and ask people what they think about foreigners? do you think they dont  choose samples from every class of societyd every ideology? be sure they must have gone to either Niþantaþý or Yozgat for this poll. do you remember that Konda conducted a poll before 2007 election and its results were the closest to the election´s results.

 

 Hehe you are wasting your time Chiko.  You know very well that if the survey had shown good things about Turks, there would be no-one desputing the results! lol

 

Nope, I think then you would come up and stand up against it.

 

35.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 12:59 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

Nope, I think then you would come up and stand up against it.

 

 

 As I have made no comment about agreeing with this poll, I wonder why you think that?

Go back to your pet experimentation sweetie

 

See you at the lights!

36.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 01:10 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 As I have made no comment about agreeing with this poll, I wonder why you think that?

Go back to your pet experimentation sweetie

 

See you at the lights!

 

 And I wonder why you think that we would believe it if it had revealed positive results.

I do not believe polls making such conclusions. If it had revealed that French nation was racist by a few questions, I´d object to it too.

 

And for next time I´m planning of exprimenting on you. Switching from hamsters to a real human sample will give more reliable, direct results.



Edited (2/24/2009) by mltm
Edited (2/24/2009) by mltm [vocabulary]

37.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 01:11 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

And for next time I´m planning of exprimenting on you. Switching from hamsters to a real human sample will give more reliable, direct results.

 

 You are scary

38.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 01:19 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 You are scary

 

 

Did I say which experiment I´ll carry on you? Nothing scary.

39.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 02:41 pm

Another thought to throw in the pot............... how do you know if people are telling the truth? 

40.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 02:45 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Another thought to throw in the pot............... how do you know if people are telling the truth? 

 

 Well, if those Turks were dudus....we definitely know the answer! lol

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