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10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:55 am

 

Quoting femmeous

 i dont know anything about your lost generation

but there are lots of females here claiming that young turks are wonderful and their knowledge and style are something divine

 

 

 

Well, I would like to think, I do know something about the my country´s lost generation..

11.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 02:46 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 so alevis arent muslim anymore from today?

 

according to the state alevism doesn`t even exist. so I don`t think they would say alevis are muslims as "they don`t exist".

also, it`s not written in the constitution that alevis are muslims, so it`s only alevis` business how to define themselves.

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 02:49 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

according to the state alevism doesn`t even exist. so I don`t think they would say alevis are muslims as "they don`t exist".

also, it`s not written in the constitution that alevis are muslims, so it`s only alevis` business how to define themselves.

 

lol lol lol 

13.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 03:00 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

you feel alienated TheH?

 

Ha ha

Why do I need to feel alienated? 

Because of your  ´alevis are non muslim Turks´ joke? 

 

ps..Please dont say the same thing in public as they may not be as friendly as us about the level of your knowledge and state of your perspective ..



Edited (3/17/2009) by thehandsom

14.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 03:12 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Ha ha

Why do I need to feel alienated? 

Because of your  ´alevis are non muslim Turks´ joke? 

 

ps..Please dont say the same thing in public as they may not be as friendly as us about the level of your knowledge and state of your perspective ..

 

no it`s because the article is excatly about the alienation of non muslims contrary to what you just said.

 

and if Alevis are muslims, kurds are Turks. when will your beloved fascist akp recognize the rights of Alevis?

 

15.       chiko
135 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 03:20 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 when will your beloved fascist akp recognize the rights of Alevis?

 

 

They will recognize the rights of Alevis when this country finally get rid of "fear" that your beloved Ataturk and his followers and generals created. Not only Alevis rights, also Kurdish rights, socialists rights, headscarved womens rights, islamists rights, leftists rights,women rights,  in summary,  "HUMAN RIGHTS"  will be recognized in that beautiful day.



Edited (3/17/2009) by chiko

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 03:45 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

who will recognize the rights of Alevis? Islamists who burnt them in Sivas? Kurds who genocided them 400 years ago with the order of ottoman empire? stop playing "victim". you`re just being disgusting.

 

Well, do you know that now ´burning intellectuals in Sivas´ is part of Ergenekon case in which the racist  nationalist criminals are being tried?

The criminals who killed many of  Turks and Kurds, the very much people Chiko was talking about, whom you like defending here so often, whom they are trying to  defend themselves by saying ´we did for our country´ inthe court..

So I am not going to be surprised if we learnt that ´sivas massacare was  a work of racist / nationalist thugs´.

But it will be a huge shock for you  

 

17.       chiko
135 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:02 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 Im sure it was also not Kurds but ergenekon who genocided the Alevis 400 years ago. besides its a 600 years old terrorist organization.

 

You made me laugh out loud Flowers  By the way i realised that you cant say "Ottoman" or "Turkish"  or "Sunni"genocided Alevis  eh?   there is always someone else to blame.

18.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:05 pm

 

Quoting chiko

 

 

You made me laugh out loud Flowers  By the way i realised that you cant say "Ottoman" or "Turkish"  or "Sunni"genocided Alevis  eh?   there is always someone else to blame.

 

I clearly said that it was the Ottoman empire who gave the order of Alevi genocide, and it was the Kurds who carried it out. just to enlighten you.

19.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:11 pm

 

Quoting chiko

 

 

You made me laugh out loud Flowers  By the way i realised that you cant say "Ottoman" or "Turkish"  or "Sunni"genocided Alevis  eh?   there is always someone else to blame.

 

Well..I am sure they blamed someone else  400 years ago too...

Foreign involvement; Iranians; "if we did not do it they would do it to us"; "it was necessary" etc

20.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:12 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well..I am sure they blamed someone else  400 years ago too...

Foreign involvement; Iranians; "if we did not do it they would do it to us"; "it was necessary" etc

 

just like you blame the so called ergenekon now for the Sivas massacre you carried out?

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