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Native English Speakers Please Help
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:43 pm |
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In another forum there was a sentence to be translated and it started like this:
"It may very will be ..."
When I saw this sentence I immediately realised the mistake. There is a typo here. It should be "It may very well be ..."
I corrected the sentence and translated it. But the funny part of the story started afterwards. Some Turkish guy argued with me that "very will be" was correct. He said
Quote: there's nothing wrong with the sentence and 'may very will be'. It's just one of them things you have not heard before. It's new to you. |
He claimed to be heard the phrase "very will be" on TV! I told him that he was lying.
I even have showed examples like "you did very will". They just don't understand that it was a typo. They drive me crazy. Now another guy has joined the gang claiming that the phrase is used in a region somewhere. It is so annoying.
Please check this discussion and add your commenst. If you are native please remember to mention it.
http://forum.seslisozluk.com/showthread.php?t=8855
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:51 pm |
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I read it and i think the person is mixing up the way people might pronounce it with the way it is spelled. I may not be native, but the sentences he made, really don't make any sense at all to me.. I lost my password though  so i can't reply yet ;D
Erdinç, could you maybe take a look at the 'Kadir!' thread and translate the last post of mine? If somebody else hasn't done it yet..
Thanks.
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:52 pm |
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Of course you are right, but I can't add a comment because I'm not a native English speaker 
But there is no such thing as "it may very will be".
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:54 pm |
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erdinç you are right
this is all that needs to be said i think hihi
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:54 pm |
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They drive me nuts. This is nightmare. I wish some natives would add a few commenst. These amateurs are crazy.
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:57 pm |
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Oh no. Another amateur argues that "may very will be" is correct by giving an example of "may will be".
The gang has started a second thread.
http://forum.seslisozluk.com/showthread.php?t=8906
I wish I could send them all back to primary school.
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:58 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: They drive me nuts. This is nightmare. I wish some natives would add a few commenst. These amateurs are crazy. |
iv commented look
i wouldnt get to angry about it you know hehe dont worry erdinç.. some people like to be ignorant... some people have perfectly working eyes but are still blind... some people have perfectly working ears but are still deaf..
i think we should just put those people aside (or lock them in one large room all together hehe) and just get on with our own lives..
takma kafana erdinç ya.. boş ver 
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 07:58 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: They drive me nuts. This is nightmare. I wish some natives would add a few commenst. These amateurs are crazy. |
I added a comment and i also mentioned i have British nationality.. they won't have to know i wasn't raised in english and that my english isn't perfect either
Don't be driven too crazy about it though.. I'm always VERY annoyed by misusage of Dutch language too, but Kadir says i pull too strong on it and therefore it's me causing my annoyed feeling, not the one who uses incorrect.. so let it go a bit
It should be their problem, not yours!
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 08:39 pm |
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erdinç, don't let it get to you these forums are to help people learn. If people are more interested in being right than learning they will never learn.
That said why waste your energy on jerks like him when you could be looking at my thread on 'ise' and giving a nice person like me a hand!!!!
I have posted hope it helps.
Chill!!
etty 
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 08:43 pm |
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Re thread quoting 'may will be', you may like to point out the only time this could be correct is 'May will be warm this year' 
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 08:44 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: They drive me nuts. This is nightmare. I wish some natives would add a few commenst. These amateurs are crazy. |
I am a native English speaker and you are right Erdinc
You cannot say - 'may very wIll be' it is obviously a typo and should read 'may very wEll be'.
and as Etty points out in her post above you could only use 'wIll' in this way when describing the month of 'May'
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 08:44 pm |
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Well Erdinc, just to help you out, I have joined the site mentioned and posted the definitive post putting an end to the discussion ( I hope)
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20 Apr 2006 Thu 09:09 pm |
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Thank you all for your support.
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24 Apr 2006 Mon 10:45 am |
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That guy's English is not up to scratch. Ignore him; his "informed" opinions about the evolution of a language that he has not yet mastered are of little use or value to anyone.
H.
PS We use Swan's book as a reference text in the teacher training programme at Bilkent hazırlık. As far as I am aware, no-one here is advocating the "let them make it up as they go along" approach to English usage...
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24 Apr 2006 Mon 01:09 pm |
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'It may will be'
This is totally incorrect,it is not a phrase that can be found in the English language.
In using this type of phrase the correct way is to say
'it may very well be'
It may very well be that May will be hot.
Here endeth the lesson (biblical quote)
It may very well be, that, because I am English and studied English Language and English Literature at college, that I could be classed as an English native speaker. 
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24 Apr 2006 Mon 01:19 pm |
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Quoting cjstan:
Here endeth the lesson (biblical quote)
It may very well be, that, because I am English and studied English Language and English Literature at college, that I could be classed as an English native speaker. |
well said cjstan.....and i totally agree as i too study both english literature and language at college, those who agree with 'it may very will be' i doubt have learnt the english language very well. it may very well need tending to 
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29 Apr 2006 Sat 06:03 am |
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don't worry about it, u were right. i am a native speaker so i do know. and it definitely shouldn't of been 'may very will be' it was a typo and u were right. the other guy was wrong.
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29 Apr 2006 Sat 08:11 am |
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