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1.       yusuf :)
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 26 Apr 2006 Wed 02:03 pm

a boy having girl frind, i know love is great thing but what i would like to ask about, is that a bad thing that u make all your life for just agirl
for example u say to her u r my life , without u i will die, iwant to ask.. is that a very low ambition all u live for is just agirl..... where is your love to your contry where is your love to your work where, where, where where is the high ambition
does any one agree with me...

2.       myworld310505
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 26 Apr 2006 Wed 02:36 pm

Hummm Love is great i agree with you, but it not low ambition to say and express to your love one that how much u love her and how important her for you and when you say "I can't live without you or You are my life I think that just one of the way to express your feeling. I beleive that there are so many things which is important in our life not just only the one you love...

Hope you find your answer here

3.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 May 2006 Fri 10:05 pm

It sounds very passionate! And typical turkish too. I see it as possessive and could not live like that as I need freedom. If someone told me they could not live without me I would run a mile! Someone did once and I finished with him.

It is great to be in love or to love someone - and I think there is a difference. When you first fall in love you are "in love" when after a few years you then "love someone". The difference is the passion you have in the early days which dies off with the years.

But love is also to let the other person have freedom - I dont mean freedom to go with other men or women, I mean freedom to do as they wish without being questioned.

Ambition to me has nothing to do with personal relationships but more to do with what you want out of life - education, position in your job, travel etc etc My ambition was never to be married for the rest of my life to one man, but to be successful with my education and my job. I also have ambition to travel all over the world.

You have to do what you feel is right. Romantic culture in Turkey is very different to romatic culture in England. People dont just have one lover, whom they then marry and stay with for the rest of their lives. They oftern have many lovers, before they marry and then marriage does not always last very long. Divorce in the UK is very high about 1 in 3 I think, but that is not necessarily right, expecially for children from a marriage.

So you must decide yourself whether you are right or wrong in your beliefs. Just be yourself

4.       Etty
137 posts
 05 May 2006 Fri 10:08 pm

Man's love is of man's life a thing apart,
'Tis woman's whole existence.

(Lord Byron. Don Juan. st 178)

Translated into simple English it means "For men love is only a part of their lives for women it IS their life"

It is far more beautiful in the original, but equally true in each.
Etty

5.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 May 2006 Fri 10:17 pm

Quoting Etty:

Man's love is of man's life a thing apart,
'Tis woman's whole existence.

(Lord Byron. Don Juan. st 178)

Translated into simple English it means "For men love is only a part of their lives for women it IS their life"

It is far more beautiful in the original, but equally true in each.
Etty



Sorry I have to disagree there! It is not for me. ove is just a part of my lift not my whole life

6.       Etty
137 posts
 05 May 2006 Fri 11:13 pm

It is a general statement, It would not stand up in a court of law, but it is, which poetry strives to attain, a comment upon what the poet observes.
If you doubt the truth of the observation please read through the 'Translation messages'

Personally I believe that the female needs a more constant commitment, as the human animal is reliant on the care of its mother for a long time. Perhaps in women this need deteriates with age and enlightenment.

Etty

7.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 May 2006 Sat 01:55 pm

When it is stated in poetry it is indeed very romantic. What I was trying to say is, love is a very important part of my life, from my sons, my parents, my husband, but love is not the only thing in life - there is self fulfilment and achivement which is just as important.

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 06 May 2006 Sat 02:10 pm

I can live without Kadir. I will keep breathing, I might even smile some days. Yes I am able to live without him. But what is life worth if I cannot share it with him and feel a peaceful, passionate happiness?

Love is not everything. But everything is nothing without love.

And therefore I don't feel afraid to say I can't live without Kadir. This sentence just doesn't fit a discussion of love. It is about the definition of 'living'.

9.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 May 2006 Sat 03:31 pm

Sounds like he was just expressing his feelings to you. I wouldn't read into anything else. I don't believe it has anything to do with ambition, love for his country etc...Actually, I think it's romantic. Be grateful you have a boyfriend who expresses him self that way. Alot of men don't know how.

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 06 May 2006 Sat 04:22 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Sounds like he was just expressing his feelings to you. I wouldn't read into anything else. I don't believe it has anything to do with ambition, love for his country etc...Actually, I think it's romantic. Be grateful you have a boyfriend who expresses him self that way. Alot of men don't know how.



I'm sorry, but who are the 'he' and 'you' in your post?

Yusuf was asking whether other members think that 'i can;t live without you'-love is good or maybe a bit too much as there are other ambitions in life too.

11.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 03:34 am

I guess I should have read between the lines. Yusuf=man
Thanks for pointing this out Deli.

12.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 11:09 am

Quoting teaschip:

I guess I should have read between the lines. Yusuf=man
Thanks for pointing this out Deli.



No problem

What you said was true anyhow

13.       Lyndie
968 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 12:57 pm

Quoting yusuf :

a boy having girl frind, i know love is great thing but what i would like to ask about, is that a bad thing that u make all your life for just agirl
for example u say to her u r my life , without u i will die, iwant to ask.. is that a very low ambition all u live for is just agirl..... where is your love to your contry where is your love to your work where, where, where where is the high ambition
does any one agree with me...



Yusuf, my own view is that you are born alone and you die alone. I believe it is your obligation in life to make the most of your life, to care for the world and your fellow humans, to achieve everything you can possibly achieve without complaining about what talents and resources you have, to nuture your relationships and live every day as if it is your last. If you find someone to love and who loves you then it is part of life's obligation to look after them as they should look after you. If you live your life for just one person, then you are not making the most of your life and when you die can you say to yourself, "I did everything I could to make the most of this life of mine"? I believe that love comes and goes in our life but it is only one small part of our lives. Take care of the loves that come and go but dont make it your only reason for living because that is wasting your precious gift.
(As usual, I talked too much )

14.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 01:02 pm

Be careful ladies....Yusuf is just sounding you out !

He knows that the girls are much smarter now and the good days when all girls believed in fairy tales are over.

Where are the lovely girls of my days - who would not mind kissing a hundred frogs out of their good hearts, in the vain hope that one will turn out to be a bewitched prince?

Alas ! What is our world coming to?

15.       Lyndie
968 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 01:10 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Be careful ladies....Yusuf is just sounding you out !

He knows that the girls are much smarter now and the good days when all girls believed in fairy tales are over.

Where are the lovely girls of my days - who would not mind kissing a hundred frogs out of their good hearts, in the vain hope that one will turn out to be a bewitched prince?

Alas ! What is our world coming to?



Off Alpha I think that you have not been reading enough posts these days. Kissing frogs is exactly what girls do these days to find their handsome prince, by the thousand not the hundreds! They are still there Alpha and their good hearts are much more accommodating than giving kisses. You had better come out from behind your lily pad and see what the world is offering these days

16.       Aenigma
0 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 01:21 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

Off Alpha I think that you have not been reading enough posts these days. Kissing frogs is exactly what girls do these days to find their handsome prince, by the thousand not the hundreds! They are still there Alpha and their good hearts are much more accommodating than giving kisses. You had better come out from behind your lily pad and see what the world is offering these days



Lyndie!!!! These are harsh words from you to your darling?! Did you two have a pillow fight this morning eh? lol

17.       Lyndie
968 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 01:37 pm

Quoting Aenigma:

Quoting Lyndie:

Off Alpha I think that you have not been reading enough posts these days. Kissing frogs is exactly what girls do these days to find their handsome prince, by the thousand not the hundreds! They are still there Alpha and their good hearts are much more accommodating than giving kisses. You had better come out from behind your lily pad and see what the world is offering these days



Lyndie!!!! These are harsh words from you to your darling?! Did you two have a pillow fight this morning eh? lol



Hmmpph....sometimes he forgets he made the transition from frog to handsome prince, so I am just reminding him...

18.       aimee
28 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 02:44 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I can live without Kadir. I will keep breathing, I might even smile some days. Yes I am able to live without him. But what is life worth if I cannot share it with him and feel a peaceful, passionate happiness?

Love is not everything. But everything is nothing without love.

And therefore I don't feel afraid to say I can't live without Kadir. This sentence just doesn't fit a discussion of love. It is about the definition of 'living'.



This is expressed so simply and yet so beautifully. It appears to make such clear sense! Thank you

19.       damalianti
84 posts
 07 May 2006 Sun 04:09 pm

Quote:

Yusuf, my own view is that you are born alone and you die alone. I believe it is your obligation in life to make the most of your life, to care for the world and your fellow humans, to achieve everything you can possibly achieve without complaining about what talents and resources you have, to nuture your relationships and live every day as if it is your last. If you find someone to love and who loves you then it is part of life's obligation to look after them as they should look after you. If you live your life for just one person, then you are not making the most of your life and when you die can you say to yourself, "I did everything I could to make the most of this life of mine"? I believe that love comes and goes in our life but it is only one small part of our lives. Take care of the loves that come and go but dont make it your only reason for living because that is wasting your precious gift.
(As usual, I talked too much )



Dear Lyndie,

I really appreciate your words, you are not speaking so much and i totally agree with your opinion.

Sincerely

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