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60.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:02 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I have been many places and in those places as a woman if you want to enter a mosque as a visiter they would not  let you.

I am happy to take you to the mosque where I went  when I was a child and you can try it yourself..

it is in istanbul btw..

 

 On the other hand i dont have to take you to many many mosques when you can visit them when you want no matter man or a woman you are  

61.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:03 pm

Much as I hate to defend any religion ( ) I really can´t see what all the fuss is about here.  So what if sometimes women tourists are refused entry to mosques?  They are not tourist attractions, they are places for prayer and if people are not comfortable with tourists staring at them, for any reason at all, so what?  Nobody is asking you to go there, its your decision.

 

Having observed western tourists in my travels, whilst there are many who are respectful in temples, churches and mosques, many are NOT.  They give no consideration to clothing worn, they do not respect people who have gone there to pray, they talk loudly, laugh, shout, take photographs and even swear!  Blame them!

62.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:04 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Not in here in afraid, as long as you are muslim you cant enter any Church except they are ancient ones .

 

 Ãn ortodox churches (as i know in Romania) everyone can enter no matter if he is jewish or muslim....God is for all who wants to step in His house

63.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:05 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

Much as I hate to defend any religion ( ) I really can´t see what all the fuss is about here.  So what if sometimes women tourists are refused entry to mosques?  They are not tourist attractions, they are places for prayer and if people are not comfortable with tourists staring at them, for any reason at all, so what?  Nobody is asking you to go there, its your decision.

 

Having observed western tourists in my travels, whilst there are many who are respectful in temples, churches and mosques, many are NOT.  They give no consideration to clothing worn, they do not respect people who have gone there to pray, they talk loudly, laugh, shout, take photographs and even swear!  Blame them!

 

ha ha ha 

I wil put this into a second position in the list of "Post of the year" lol lol  

64.       wanasa
6 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:06 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

Mosques..the way of praying of muslims are a big attraction for foreigners...i will never want this to change. Ý fell inlove with Turkey because of this

 

 Thanks. Sure we give respect to our visitors in our mosques. We never send them upstairs or close them to small rooms. If some people have done this due to any reason, we are sorry. But plz dont blame on entire muslim world.

65.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:10 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Are you sure they are not trying to protect themselves from vandalism? 

 

 

 Hmmmmmmm, i dont like the hint handsom, and they arent appropriate too

Still i will reply it...

1. Then as muslims we have same right to stop anyone not muslim from entering our mosques

2. As we are 70 million muslim here in Egypt, and Christians are almost 7 or 8 million so if we wanted to destory or vandalize the Churches, we could do it easily.

By logic, 70 million could protect the 7 million and their properities not the other way around !

 

Btw, havent you got board yet from repeating/spreading how bad muslims are ?!

66.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:10 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 On the other hand i dont have to take you to many many mosques when you can visit them when you want no matter man or a woman you are  

 

Well

As I said, as a woman you wont be able to go to those mosques..

As a man, of course I can go into any mosque I want to..

That was the whole point..

 

ps..I am not claiming that I am a good mosque person but in mosques I have been , I saw women in Macca-kabe only and women were at the back section and it was like a cafe (I used to call it´ Kabe cafe´

67.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:13 pm

 

Quoting wanasa

 

 

 Thanks. Sure we give respect to our visitors in our mosques. We never send them upstairs or close them to small rooms. If some people have done this due to any reason, we are sorry. But plz dont blame on entire muslim world.

 

 wanasa, i believe they meant by ´sending to upstairs´ send women to women´s praying places, and we do that at praying times and we dont have to apologize for that !

 

68.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:13 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Hmmmmmmm, i dont like the hint handsom, and they arent appropriate too

Still i will reply it...

1. Then as muslims we have same right to stop anyone not muslim from entering our mosques

2. As we are 70 million muslim here in Egypt, and Christians are almost 7 or 8 million so if we wanted to destory or vandalize the Churches, we could do it easily.

By logic, 70 million could protect the 7 million and their properities not the other way around !

 

Btw, havent you got board yet from repeating/spreading how bad muslims are ?!

 

I am not trying to repeat or spread anything..

But anybody tries to paint a ´pink picture of islam or any religion´ I will always come up and tell: ´hang on minute that is not right´

And everybody should do so, otherwise there is no escape from backwardness of religions..

So the answer to your question is :  as long as you make islamic propaganda, I will always be against it..



Edited (8/23/2009) by thehandsom

69.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:15 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Hmmmmmmm, i dont like the hint handsom, and they arent appropriate too

Still i will reply it...

1. Then as muslims we have same right to stop anyone not muslim from entering our mosques

2. As we are 70 million muslim here in Egypt, and Christians are almost 7 or 8 million so if we wanted to destory or vandalize the Churches, we could do it easily.

By logic, 70 million could protect the 7 million and their properities not the other way around !

 

Btw, havent you got board yet from repeating/spreading how bad muslims are ?!

 

If someone denies you entrance to a church, a temple, a synagogue just because you are a woman, I would find that idiot as well. I think all people should have the right to visit these places. Sure, not during praying times, that´s logic. For me, an agnost, places of worship are not divine places but I do like the serenity that´s often there a lot, reason enough to visit them.

70.       wanasa
6 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:16 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well

As I said, as a woman you wont be able to go to those mosques..

As a man, of course I can go into any mosque I want to..

That was the whole point..

 

ps..I am not claiming that I am a good mosque person but in mosques I have been , I saw women in Macca-kabe only and women were at the back section and it was like a cafe (I used to call it´ Kabe cafe´

 

 thehandsome   Someone have cheated you  as I think by showing you anyother place and saying it Macca. I think that will be your travel-agent.   Even in Macca-Kaba there are no different sections of men and women. you can start any TV channel of Saudi Arabia and you can Watch very clearly.

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