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80.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:33 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 It IS a feminist issue as long as Muslims state that men and women are equal. By giving them seperate entrance and praying places it is proven they are not treated equally.

 

 

 Ã dont understand you !

As muslims..we have our rules to pray.

We have our way of praying what would that has to do with equality ?!

Women pray in places and men pray in other places, as women cant pray at same places with men, also men cant pray at same places with women !

What feminist has to do or even got to do with our pray ?!

Ým sorry but its not of their business !

81.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:33 pm

Trudy and Thehandsom continue to baffle me with their weak arguments!! lol

Next, Trudy will be complaining that she visited a Buddhist monastery and was not allowed in thus monks are sexist! lollollol

82.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:37 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

No Canli, I never tried to enter a mosque during praying time. Still there are several where  I was directed to the womens praying place and denied main entrance. If it was during praying time you were right, than they can deny anyone who isn´t coming for prayer. But it was not!

 

 Men are denying women´s entrance too as well !

They cant enter at where women pray !

Ý dont see anyone having problem with that !

You see, the main building of the mosque belong to men´s praying because men´s number are always bigger than women´s numbers at praying time

So its only logic that they have the larger place !

83.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:38 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Ã dont understand you !

As muslims..we have our rules to pray.

We have our way of praying what would that has to do with equality ?!

Women pray in places and men pray in other places, as women cant pray at same places with men, also men cant pray at same places with women !

What feminist has to do or even got to do with our pray ?!

Ým sorry but its not of their business !

 

 

 Maybe she thinks that the whole world is sexist for having separate MALE and FEMALE public toilets...

84.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:39 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Ãslamic propaganda ?!

What are you talking about ?!!!!

Ýs anything related to Ýslam make you fail even to see what is it about and start to attack it ?!

pink picture of islam ????!!!!

Mr, Have anyone told you that we build mosques for the aim that non muslims come to visit ?!

Have we asked people to come and visit our mosques ?!

Where is the Ýslamic propaganda/pink picture of islam  of Ýslam here ?!

Ýf non came to visit our mosques its not a problem to us...we build them to pray..Muslims pray not for any other reason !

GOD...you do hate Ýslam so much indeed that you dont/cant even hide it !

 

I hate the backwardness of any religions..

Why?

I can lecture you about it all day and all night!!24/7 indeed.

But you would not like it really..

You are painting a pink picture of islam by pick and mix here..

You are picking good part of islam/sheria  and traditions and trying to portray them as if they are good things..(of course you are trying to do it generically speaking) 

You are trying to soften the backwardness of it..

You are trying to show a medieval idea as modern philosphy here( and failing miserably of course)

 

Anyway, in islam women are men are not equal..

And you are trying to say that it is normal..

Dont you see how backwards it is?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

85.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:44 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Anyway, in islam women are men are not equal..

And you are trying to say that it is normal..

Dont you see how backwards it is?

 

 This has nothing to do with visiting a mosque!  If Islam is a culture you find sexist and disagree with DONT VISIT A MOSQUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Why are you finding this so hard to understand!!! Head bang  As I said before, would a woman visit a monastry and expect to be allowed in? 

86.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:44 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Ã dont understand you !

As muslims..we have our rules to pray.

We have our way of praying what would that has to do with equality ?!

Women pray in places and men pray in other places, as women cant pray at same places with men, also men cant pray at same places with women !

What feminist has to do or even got to do with our pray ?!

Ým sorry but its not of their business !

 

That is the whole point here

Someone is telling you that ´she would be denied entering mosques´ 

Of course it is everything got to do with equality..

Women are put there cage like place in Turkey (they can see men but men are not allowed to see)

They are ´behind the sceene´

It is very much an issue of equality here!!

Infact that is the whole issue here..

But as you say, you are not after equality..

You do not see is an equality issue...

Why are you still  arguing?

 

87.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

That is the whole point here

Someone is telling you that ´she would be denied entering mosques´ 

Of course it is everything got to do with equality..

Women are put there cage like place in Turkey (they can see men but men are not allowed to see)

They are ´behind the sceene´

It is very much an issue of equality here!!

Infact that is the whole issue here..

But as you say, you are not after equality..

You do not see is an equality issue...

Why are you still  arguing?

 

 

 Why are YOU still arguing!!!!! lol

This is not about something that affects YOUR life.  If you don´t like muslim culture, DONT VISIT A MOSQUE!!! You crazy?

88.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:47 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well

As a muslim  woman, having priveledge to enter a mosque through the back door and to go into ´your section´ of the mosque in Egypt does not change what Trudy said in the first place..

And if you are happy with what you have and if you think that is ´enough´ for you ..

It is fine I guess..  

I will still say that you can NOT enter inyo many many mosques through the main door and go and sit in the ´main ´ section..

That is the truth!!

 

 

 Well, as a muslim woman i have no problem with that handsom...

Ý go to mosques to pray thats the reason of muslims visit to mosques where they are OUR houses of God.

Ýts a seperated entrance for our comfort not ´back door´ as you like to put it

And i would appreciate it if you show more respect to our rules of praying , you know very well what did you mean by ´back doors´ ´your section´!

Ýn the past  and still at many old mosques women used to enter trough the main doors and go to our women´s places, now when we build mosques we have our seperate places and thats more comfortable to us.

When we need bigger places because of ´elhamdülillah´ number of women increasing, they make modification for the place and make renovation for our comfort.

So yes, as a muslim woman i have no problem

But i dont understand, as non muslim, what is your probelm ?!

89.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:47 pm

Do you find it sexist that men and women pee in separate public toilets?

90.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:48 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Why are YOU still arguing!!!!! lol

This is not about something that affects YOUR life.  If you don´t like muslim culture, DONT VISIT A MOSQUE!!! You crazy?

 

I am obviously not arguing with you  as you do NOT have a valid point!! lol lol 

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