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The Other Perspective of Intercultural Relationships
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18 Sep 2009 Fri 11:58 pm |
I find it interesting that all of the posts about intercultural relationships are about relationships where the man is Turkish and the woman from elsewhere. I am an American man married to a Turkish woman. Are relationships where foreign men are married to Turkish women that uncommon?
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19 Sep 2009 Sat 12:03 am |
My wife is Azeri (hailing from Iran). It´s not Turkish, I know, but close...
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19 Sep 2009 Sat 06:51 am |
I think this was mentioned before.. but I think that in general you have a good observation Yusuf. Turkish women are less likely to step outside of the given to them boundaries, they are more controlled by the society then the men are. Probably, the Turkish women who do get involved with non-turkish men, are more likely to be more educated and from more open-minded families, while you can see uneducated Turkish men in relationships with non-turkish women. Many of those relationships are just a hoax for money and those men are still planning to eventually marry a "nice turkish woman", but not all.. and even the fact that they are permitted to get involved with so many and with non-turkish women shows how unequally treated men and women are!!
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19 Sep 2009 Sat 09:17 am |
i would suggest you to ignore catwoman`s post as it`s totally irrelevant. the main reason behind why there are more relationships between turkish men and foreign women is because the possibility of foreign women meeting turkish men in holidays is much higher than that of foreign men meeting turkish women, and that`s simply because all the waiters are males in Turkey.
who do you think tourists interact with while they are on holiday in Turkey? they don`t meet the women who run big companies, or the women in parliement, they meet the waiters and the store owners who are all males.
you think Guler Sabanci, who is one of the wealthiest businesswomen of the world is not married to a foreigner because she can`t get out of the "boundaries the society set for her"? it would be moronic to assume that, as this woman is able to buy catwoman along with the city she lives in Poland without exceeding her credit card limit.
Edited (9/19/2009) by mhsn supertitiz
[extra lol`s]
Edited (9/19/2009) by mhsn supertitiz
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19 Sep 2009 Sat 11:01 am |
I find it interesting that all of the posts about intercultural relationships are about relationships where the man is Turkish and the woman from elsewhere. I am an American man married to a Turkish woman. Are relationships where foreign men are married to Turkish women that uncommon?
I think that is a true observation. The main reason is that Turkey is a bit xenophobic and marrying a foreigner means you have to ´dare´ the society. Even, for a man, it is not that easy to marry a foreign women (I am not talking about men getting involved in holiday romps with foreign women here) You can see from many posts here that a classical-conservative Turkish family will not accept a foreign bride that easily. But however the preliminary stages (flirting, sex etc) for getting together are permitted to Turkish men but women (not openly at least).
When you think of Turkish society a male dominated chauvinistic Islamic society in general, it will be almost impossible for a Turkish woman to find a foreign man.
More than half of Turkish women can not go out without asking her family´s permission!! Even a woman steps outsides of the borders, drawn by the males of the society, marrying a foreigner will require extra ´bravery´ from that woman..
Apart from that, a foreign woman marrying a Turkish man, fits the legend of ´foreign woman finds the true man when she meets a Turk and she leaves everything behind including her religion´ .. Our history is full of this type of crap. A turkish woman marrying a foreigner wont fit into that..
Ah..One more thing:
No turkish family will accept a foreign groom without circumcision..May be the scare of circumcision pushes some foreign men away too.
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19 Sep 2009 Sat 11:17 am |
Well both views are kind of true - it can´t be denied that the reason the majority of people on TC are women with Turkish boyfriends is because they met waiters/barmen on holiday
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:00 am |
Another reason....some interpret the quran to say that a muslim man is not required to marry a muslim woman, but a muslim woman is required to marry a muslim man... Just add it somewhere on the long long LONGGGGG list of reasons.
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:14 am |
I find it interesting that all of the posts about intercultural relationships are about relationships where the man is Turkish and the woman from elsewhere. I am an American man married to a Turkish woman. Are relationships where foreign men are married to Turkish women that uncommon?
There is no problem if a non Moslem Turkish woman marries a man of different faith or nation. Marriage of a Moslem Turkish woman (or a Moslem woman of any nationality) to a non Moslem man (whatever his nation) however, is not encouraged (to say the least) for religious reasons.
Edited (9/20/2009) by AlphaF
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:16 am |
I would like to find out how a Turkish partner experiences an intercultural relationship...
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:20 am |
I would like to find out how a Turkish partner experiences an intercultural relationship...
find it out then
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:22 am |
My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:40 am |
My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me
I am one of those men wisely men keeping his mouth shut
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:46 am |
My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me
If your partner is Moslem and is telling you that his religion does not allow him to marry you, he is either sincerely misinformed or a regular liar.
Best you two seek advise from an imam in a local mosque, together. He should be able to explain you the ropes.
Edited (9/20/2009) by AlphaF
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:47 am |
pfff, when did all men get so smart? My partner always says "nooo, nobody said anything to me about me dating a Western girl, everybody loves you, it´s wonderfullll, grrrrreat!" ...hard time believing that He did have a problem with me not being able to make Turkish tea the first time he asked me for tea... but that´s all he ever expressed to me about cultural problems
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:51 am |
My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me
rubbish collector is your job???or just the first woman who managed to tam a turk???
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:53 am |
rubbish collector is your job???or just the first woman who managed to tam a turk???
come on Birdy, most of Turkish men deserves that type of woman..
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:57 am |
come on Birdy, most of Turkish men deserves that type of woman..
no pity for barba then!!!))))think i will add more classes to Tc schedule)))inspired)))
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 03:01 am |
come on Birdy, most of Turkish men deserves that type of woman..
no pity for barba then!!!))))think i will add more classes to Tc schedule)))inspired)))
There should not be to be honest.. You can not make a half way decent relationship without plaining the primitive parts of an average Turkish man. That is what she is doing..let her do it..
Edited (9/20/2009) by thehandsom
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 05:27 pm |
If your partner is Moslem and is telling you that his religion does not allow him to marry you, he is either sincerely misinformed or a regular liar.
Best you two seek advise an imam in a local mosque, together. He should be able to explain you the ropes.
Well, it´s a good thing that he doesn´t say that than, isn´t it I explained to him that my family wouldn´t be thrilled if I got married before I got my final university diploma, hence the not marrying yet. It has nothing to do with him being muslim and me being something else
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20 Sep 2009 Sun 06:41 pm |
Well, it´s a good thing that he doesn´t say that than, isn´t it I explained to him that my family wouldn´t be thrilled if I got married before I got my final university diploma, hence the not marrying yet. It has nothing to do with him being muslim and me being something else
Very smart....get your diploma first; not for your family, but for your own good !
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21 Sep 2009 Mon 05:19 pm |
Very smart....get your diploma first; not for your family, but for your own good !
Ah yes, I´m getting it for myself But it seems much easier for me to explain myself by saying ´my family wants me to´ ... The real reason (If I get married I want to do it good and have two weddings with a lot of everything, so we need to save money for a LONG time) seems a bit spoiled
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27 Sep 2009 Sun 06:54 am |
i would suggest you to ignore catwoman`s post as it`s totally irrelevant. the main reason behind why there are more relationships between turkish men and foreign women is because the possibility of foreign women meeting turkish men in holidays is much higher than that of foreign men meeting turkish women, and that`s simply because all the waiters are males in Turkey.
who do you think tourists interact with while they are on holiday in Turkey? they don`t meet the women who run big companies, or the women in parliement, they meet the waiters and the store owners who are all males.
you think Guler Sabanci, who is one of the wealthiest businesswomen of the world is not married to a foreigner because she can`t get out of the "boundaries the society set for her"? it would be moronic to assume that, as this woman is able to buy catwoman along with the city she lives in Poland without exceeding her credit card limit.
your post only shows how ignorant you really are, and how arrogant you are to publicly say that what you say is the utmost truth and everybody elese´s opinions are moronic assumptions. you are acting like a little boy who leared a few words that he can´t understand yet.
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27 Sep 2009 Sun 10:38 am |
your post only shows how ignorant you really are, and how arrogant you are to publicly say that what you say is the utmost truth and everybody elese´s opinions are moronic assumptions. you are acting like a little boy who leared a few words that he can´t understand yet.
you`re too late cw. the debate is over.
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28 Sep 2009 Mon 02:30 am |
My Turkish male friend is getting married to a Russian girl next year,he was always dreaming of Dabrowski one but knowing me he gave up)))He says we are too demanding and too bossy and too reserved about complimenting,chosing what we want and not life offers to us ,and not predictable at all compared to others,he hanged around with a British one for a while giving an opinion-sorry all British members-Brits are too easy,they jump to bed after 15 min of acquaintance...he never thought of marrying Turkish girl although it was his mother wish-as he claims turkish cannot fulfil fantasies and are too material
well.i am just quoting!!!!!
Intercultural relationship seems his choice with well educated but still damn obedient Russian wife)))
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