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The Other Perspective of Intercultural Relationships
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1.       Yusef Bey
2 posts
 18 Sep 2009 Fri 11:58 pm

I find it interesting that all of the posts about intercultural relationships are about relationships where the man is Turkish and the woman from elsewhere. I am an American man married to a Turkish woman. Are relationships where foreign men are married to Turkish women that uncommon?

2.       baterista
27 posts
 19 Sep 2009 Sat 12:03 am

My wife is Azeri (hailing from Iran). It´s not Turkish, I know, but close...

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Sep 2009 Sat 06:51 am

I think this was mentioned before.. but I think that in general you have a good observation Yusuf. Turkish women are less likely to step outside of the given to them boundaries, they are more controlled by the society then the men are. Probably, the Turkish women who do get involved with non-turkish men, are more likely to be more educated and from more open-minded families, while you can see uneducated Turkish men in relationships with non-turkish women. Many of those relationships are just a hoax for money and those men are still planning to eventually marry a "nice turkish woman", but not all.. and even the fact that they are permitted to get involved with so many and with non-turkish women shows how unequally treated men and women are!!

4.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 19 Sep 2009 Sat 09:17 am

i would suggest you to ignore catwoman`s post as it`s totally irrelevant. the main reason behind why there are more relationships between turkish men and foreign women is because the possibility of foreign women meeting turkish men in holidays is much higher than that of foreign men meeting turkish women, and that`s simply because all the waiters are males in Turkey.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

who do you think tourists interact with while they are on holiday in Turkey? they don`t meet the women who run big companies, or the women in parliement, they meet the waiters and the store owners who are all males.

 

you think Guler Sabanci, who is one of the wealthiest businesswomen of the world is not married to a foreigner because she can`t get out of the "boundaries the society set for her"? it would be moronic to assume that, as this woman is able to buy catwoman along with the city she lives in Poland without exceeding her credit card limit. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



Edited (9/19/2009) by mhsn supertitiz [extra lol`s]
Edited (9/19/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

5.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Sep 2009 Sat 11:01 am

 

Quoting Yusef Bey

I find it interesting that all of the posts about intercultural relationships are about relationships where the man is Turkish and the woman from elsewhere. I am an American man married to a Turkish woman. Are relationships where foreign men are married to Turkish women that uncommon?

 

I think that is a true observation.
The main reason is that Turkey is a bit xenophobic and marrying a foreigner means you have to ´dare´ the society.
Even, for a man, it is not that easy to marry a foreign women (I am not talking about men getting involved in holiday romps with foreign women here)
You can see from many posts here that a classical-conservative Turkish family will not accept a foreign bride that easily.
But however the preliminary stages (flirting, sex etc) for getting together are permitted to Turkish men but women (not openly at least).

When you think of Turkish society a male dominated chauvinistic Islamic society in general, it will be almost impossible for a Turkish woman to find a foreign man.

More than half of Turkish women can not go out without asking her family´s permission!!
Even a woman steps outsides of the borders, drawn by the males of the society, marrying a foreigner will require extra ´bravery´ from that woman..

Apart from that, a foreign woman marrying a Turkish man, fits the legend of ´foreign woman finds the true man when she meets a Turk and she leaves everything behind including her religion´ .. Our history is full of this type of crap. A turkish woman marrying a foreigner wont fit into that..

Ah..One more thing:

No turkish family will accept a foreign groom without circumcision..May be the scare of circumcision pushes some foreign men away too. lol lol

6.       _AE_
677 posts
 19 Sep 2009 Sat 11:17 am

Well both views are kind of true - it can´t be denied that the reason the majority of people on TC are women with Turkish boyfriends is because they met waiters/barmen on holiday

7.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:00 am

Another reason....some interpret the quran to say that a muslim man is not required to marry a muslim woman, but a muslim woman is required to marry a muslim man... Just add it somewhere on the long long LONGGGGG list of reasons.

 

8.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:14 am

 

Quoting Yusef Bey

I find it interesting that all of the posts about intercultural relationships are about relationships where the man is Turkish and the woman from elsewhere. I am an American man married to a Turkish woman. Are relationships where foreign men are married to Turkish women that uncommon?

 

There is no problem if a non Moslem Turkish woman marries a man of different faith or nation. Marriage of a Moslem Turkish woman (or a Moslem woman of any nationality)  to a non Moslem man (whatever his nation) however, is not encouraged (to say the least) for religious reasons.



Edited (9/20/2009) by AlphaF

9.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:16 am

I would like to find out how a Turkish partner experiences an intercultural relationship...

10.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:20 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

I would like to find out how a Turkish partner experiences an intercultural relationship...

 

find it out then <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

11.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:22 am

My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:40 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me

 

I am one of those men wisely men  keeping his mouth shut lol lol 

13.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:46 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me

 

If your partner is Moslem and is telling you that his religion does not allow him to marry you, he is either sincerely misinformed or a regular liar.

 

Best you two seek advise from an imam in a local mosque, together. He should be able to explain you the ropes.



Edited (9/20/2009) by AlphaF

14.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:47 am

pfff, when did all men get so smart? My partner always says "nooo, nobody said anything to me about me dating a Western girl, everybody loves you, it´s wonderfullll, grrrrreat!" ...hard time believing that He did have a problem with me not being able to make Turkish tea the first time he asked me for tea... but that´s all he ever expressed to me about cultural problems

15.       birdy
245 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:51 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

My partner wisely keeps his mouth shut Afraid of the wrath of Western Girl... Anybody here who is Turkish with a Western partner who wants to share, and who doesn´t have to be afraid to be dumped by me

 

 rubbish collector is your job???or just the first woman who managed to tam a turk???

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:53 am

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

 rubbish collector is your job???or just the first woman who managed to tam a turk???

 

come on Birdy, most of  Turkish men deserves that type of woman..lol

 

17.       birdy
245 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 02:57 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

come on Birdy, most of  Turkish men deserves that type of woman..lol

 

no pity for barba then!!!))))think i will add more classes to Tc schedule)))inspired)))

18.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 03:01 am

 

Quoting birdy

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

come on Birdy, most of  Turkish men deserves that type of woman..lol

 

no pity for barba then!!!))))think i will add more classes to Tc schedule)))inspired)))

There should not be to be honest.. You can not make a half way decent relationship without plaining the primitive parts of an average Turkish man. That is what she is doing..let her do it..

 

 



Edited (9/20/2009) by thehandsom

19.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 05:27 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

If your partner is Moslem and is telling you that his religion does not allow him to marry you, he is either sincerely misinformed or a regular liar.

 

Best you two seek advise an imam in a local mosque, together. He should be able to explain you the ropes.

 

 Well, it´s a good thing that he doesn´t say that than, isn´t it I explained to him that my family wouldn´t be thrilled if I got married before I got my final university diploma, hence the not marrying yet. It has nothing to do with him being muslim and me being something else

20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 20 Sep 2009 Sun 06:41 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 Well, it´s a good thing that he doesn´t say that than, isn´t it I explained to him that my family wouldn´t be thrilled if I got married before I got my final university diploma, hence the not marrying yet. It has nothing to do with him being muslim and me being something else

 

Very smart....get your diploma first; not for your family, but for your own good !

21.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 21 Sep 2009 Mon 05:19 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Very smart....get your diploma first; not for your family, but for your own good !

 

 Ah yes, I´m getting it for myself But it seems much easier for me to explain myself by saying ´my family wants me to´ ... The real reason (If I get married I want to do it good and have two weddings with a lot of everything, so we need to save money for a LONG time) seems a bit spoiled

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 06:54 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

i would suggest you to ignore catwoman`s post as it`s totally irrelevant. the main reason behind why there are more relationships between turkish men and foreign women is because the possibility of foreign women meeting turkish men in holidays is much higher than that of foreign men meeting turkish women, and that`s simply because all the waiters are males in Turkey.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

who do you think tourists interact with while they are on holiday in Turkey? they don`t meet the women who run big companies, or the women in parliement, they meet the waiters and the store owners who are all males.

 

you think Guler Sabanci, who is one of the wealthiest businesswomen of the world is not married to a foreigner because she can`t get out of the "boundaries the society set for her"? it would be moronic to assume that, as this woman is able to buy catwoman along with the city she lives in Poland without exceeding her credit card limit. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

your post only shows how ignorant you really are, and how arrogant you are to publicly say that what you say is the utmost truth and everybody elese´s opinions are moronic assumptions. you are acting like a little boy who leared a few words that he can´t understand yet.

23.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 10:38 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

your post only shows how ignorant you really are, and how arrogant you are to publicly say that what you say is the utmost truth and everybody elese´s opinions are moronic assumptions. you are acting like a little boy who leared a few words that he can´t understand yet.

 

you`re too late cw. the debate is over.Satisfied nod

24.       birdy
245 posts
 28 Sep 2009 Mon 02:30 am

My Turkish male friend is getting married to a Russian girl next year,he was always dreaming of Dabrowski one but knowing me he gave up)))He says we are too demanding and too bossy and too reserved  about complimenting,chosing what we want and not life offers to us ,and not predictable at all  compared to others,he hanged around with a British one for a while giving an opinion-sorry all British members-Brits are too easy,they jump to bed after 15 min of acquaintance...he never thought of marrying Turkish girl although it was his mother wish-as he claims turkish cannot fulfil fantasies and are too material

well.i am just quoting!!!!!

Intercultural relationship seems his choice with well educated but still damn obedient Russian wife)))

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