Hi,

What does it mean whenever there is a p at the end of a verb like the "gidip" or "dönüp" i have seen it a couple of times but can´t figure it out. Is it a kind of participle or what?

thanks

In Turkish, I think it works like this (from what I have seen in my books and my learnning so far):

The -ip -üp -up -ýp suffixes actually are put at the end of a verb when there are two or more verbs. Then, only the last verb takes the tense and the mark of the person.

An example: ´biz Kapalý Çarþýya gidip, halýcýya girip, halýya baktýk´.

We went to the Kapalý Çarþý, went to a carpet seller, looked at carpets.

In this example, only the last verb takes the mark of the past tense and 1st person plural.

However, my own understanding of the rule and the explanation I am giving might be too simple or wrong, only learner.

Please wait for more advanced learners or native speakers to complete this. Thanks.

thanks a lot

I am only a learner, but Bea Blanchi´s explanation is correct.  One more thing - it is only used if the verbs are the same tense and if the subject is the same.

Thank fico for adding this, I had forgotten!

You dont use it in this case:

we will go home and I will work. =  Eve döneceðiz ve çalýþacaðým.  

I had this explained to me once as similar to an English sentence saying:

I am writing Turkish and I am reading Turkish and I am speaking Turkish.

In English we would shorten this to:

I am writing, reading and speaking Turkish. (ie dropping some of the "I am"s)

Similarly in Turkish you wouldn´t say:

Türkçe yazýyorum ve Türkçe okuyorum ve Türkçe konuþuyorum.

I think it becomes:

Türkçe yazýp okuyup konuþuyorum (again dropping the ´I am/um´ and also the ´...ing/uyor´

We use suffix –ip

1) when the subject  performs  two actions in one sentence.

Gittim. Gördüm. (two sentences)

Gittim ve gördüm. (one sentence with the conjunction ve)

Gidip gördüm. (one sentence with the suffix -ip)

Note that  when the first verb takes the suffix –ip, the second one remains as it is.

You should keep in mind that it is not proper to use the suffix –ip more than once in a sentence:

 So, instead of “Türkçe yazýp okuyup konuþuyorum” it is more proper to say “Türkçe yazýyor, okuyor ve konuþuyorum”

And

´biz Kapalý Çarþýya gidip, halýcýya girip, halýya baktýk´ should be said as follows:

Biz Kapalý Çarþý’ya gittik, bir halýcýya girip halýlara baktýk.

2) in place of the suffix –ince.

Gidince göreceksin.

Gidip göreceksin.

Note that they are not always interchangeable.

3) (verb+ip) + dur  => keep + (verb+ing)

Gülüp durma – don’t keep laughing

Bütün gün aðlayýp durdu – s/he kept crying all day long

Erkek arkadaþýndan þikayet edip duruyor - She keeps complaining about her boyfriend

Thank you upsy daisy and si++ for explaining this further. It is very helpful for all learners.