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20.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 23 Oct 2009 Fri 10:20 pm

Thank you I just get irritated. This is a very personal matter for me, since I have some Jewish roots in my family, and have lost a family member in a concentration camp. Because people don´t realise that I have Jewish family members, I have heard people in The Netherlands made some anti-Jewish remarks around me..... but I have also had the same experience in Turkey! By the way, I have had this experience much more in Turkey then in Holland. So spitting the word nazi on the screen all the time gives me a funny feeling in the stomach. If you take the meaning of nazi as not connected to german national socialism, but something that can occur in other countries as well, then one would have to say that Turkey is also filled with nazi´s. I prefer not to use this meaning. I don´t want to think that in every country I go, I´ll be greeted by a bunch of nazi´s...



Edited (10/23/2009) by barba_mama

21.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 04:57 pm

to sum up all the christian posts under this thread;

 

"Turkey is getting more and more muslim, but the christian countries aren`t getting more and more christian and nazist. just because tens of muslims get killed randomly every year in the christian countries doesn`t mean, they are getting more christian. Christian`s jailing, torturing, and genociding muslims doesn`t mean anything in this context either, but Turkey is getting more and more muslim and that is bad."

 

 

typical christian nazist rhetoric.

 

 

22.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 05:05 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 I agree that there is racism everywhere.  Instead of flying off the handle at Tami about this comments, a better question would be why does he get so aggitated when we discuss Turkey in this context?  He seems to feel it unfair and feel that we are judging when we have no right to judge.  I think he forgets this is TURKISH LANGUAGE CLASS and therefore topics about Turkey WILL appear in the forums and that people are here because they are interested in Turkey and the language!!!!  He seems to just view it as if Turkey is being picked on!! lollollol

 

 

you would call it just an illusion of me, wouldn`t you?

 

ok, this is the turkishclass and you want to throw everything at muslims, but how about outside of the turkishclass?

 

I don`t see much talk about the the growing christian extremism and nazism in the christian media. all they talk about is how muslims are animals, and how the christians are right to genocide them.

 

you heard about the muslim man whose house got bombed by christian nazis this summer in america? you won`t, because the christian nazist media will never talk about it or the countless of other crimes the christian nazis commit.

23.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 05:23 pm

Total death toll in WW2 was about 95 000 000 people, about 5 000 000 of which were of Jewish descent. Listening to the depth of Jewish propaganda afterwards, one would think only Jews died in the war !

 

Jews are now busy getting even in Gazza and any objections to this genocide would make one anti-semitic.

24.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 06:28 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Thank you I just get irritated. This is a very personal matter for me, since I have some Jewish roots in my family, and have lost a family member in a concentration camp. Because people don´t realise that I have Jewish family members, I have heard people in The Netherlands made some anti-Jewish remarks around me..... but I have also had the same experience in Turkey! By the way, I have had this experience much more in Turkey then in Holland. So spitting the word nazi on the screen all the time gives me a funny feeling in the stomach. If you take the meaning of nazi as not connected to german national socialism, but something that can occur in other countries as well, then one would have to say that Turkey is also filled with nazi´s. I prefer not to use this meaning. I don´t want to think that in every country I go, I´ll be greeted by a bunch of nazi´s...

 

 

hahaha, it`s so funny that you think nazism=hatred against Jews.  no, the self interests of nazis and jews go hand in hand in the 21st century. the new victim of the nazis is muslims.

 

25.       insallah
1277 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 06:58 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

hahaha, it`s so funny that you think nazism=hatred against Jews.   

 

 I don´t find it funny at all , it is a key part of the history of which I myself have lost many family members ( my fathers side is jewish german) . The way you throw the term around is starting to sicken me and offend as well

26.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 07:06 pm

 

Quoting insallah

 

 

 I don´t find it funny at all , it is a key part of the history of which I myself have lost many family members ( my fathers side is jewish german) . The way you throw the term around is starting to sicken me and offend as well

 

hmmm your father is jewish, so there is nothing called christian nazi. excellent reasoning!

 

27.       insallah
1277 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 07:15 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

hmmm your father is jewish, so there is nothing called christian nazi. excellent reasoning!

 

 

 Can you please not put words into my mouth that I have not said..

My father is not jewish I did not say he was, and I did no such reasoning as you seem to think, i was not even on that page .. (you made up your own conclusion and I would expect no less)

My post was not aimed at soley you so why you feel the need to respond I am lost, But it was regarding the over use of the term Nazi without clear understanding of the context it involves. In agreement with Barba_mama it is not a term to throw around to the simple bigots ...

 



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28.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 07:30 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 You may believe this to be true, but I would remind you that the UK have recently elected TWO members of the European Parliament who are from the nazi supporting BNP party...

 

 Yes I don´t need to be reminded , Nick Griffin did that on Thursday night!  Oh what a gem he is, I think I will join his party just to make Tami happy!

 

btw, don´t forget the BNP were the National Front before so we have always been a VERY Nazi Christian country.......... River of Blood, Braford riots and all that, with that I conclude that Tami is right on every front!!!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

29.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 07:37 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Yes I don´t need to be reminded , Nick Griffin did that on Thursday night!  Oh what a gem he is, I think I will join his party just to make Tami happy!

 

btw, don´t forget the BNP were the National Front before so we have always been a VERY Nazi Christian country.......... River of Blood, Braford riots and all that, with that I conclude that Tami is right on every front!!!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

 

 

I`m always right! thanks for confirming this once again. Super cool

 

30.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 07:38 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

I`m always right! thanks for confirming this once again. Super cool

 

 

 Of course you are dear boy, I bet you are teachers pet and always top of the class!



Edited (10/24/2009) by libralady [typos!]

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