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10.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 03:14 pm

 

Quoting yakamozzz

 

 

depends on whether they are his fans or just fanatics

 

 Look at the etimology of the word "fan" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_(person)#Etymology

11.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:20 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 Look at the etimology of the word "fan" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_(person)#Etymology

 

[...] Supporter is a synonym to "fan" which predates the latter term and as such is still commonly used in British English, especially to denote fans of sports teams. However, the term "fan" has become popular throughout the English-speaking world, including the United Kingdom. The term supporter is also used in a political sense in the United States, to a fan of a politician, a political party, and a controversial issue. [...]

 

 

 

so...? {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

12.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:27 pm

" (Fanatic itself, introduced into English around 1525, means "insane person". It comes from the Modern Latin fanaticus, meaning "insanely but divinely inspired". The word originally pertained to a temple or sacred place [Latin fanum, poetic English fane]. The modern sense of "extremely zealous" dates from around 1647; the use of fanatic as a noun dates from 1650.)"



Edited (11/16/2009) by ReyhanL

13.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:32 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

" (Fanatic itself, introduced into English around 1525, means "insane person". It comes from the Modern Latin fanaticus, meaning "insanely but divinely inspired". The word originally pertained to a temple or sacred place [Latin fanum, poetic English fane]. The modern sense of "extremely zealous" dates from around 1647; the use of fanatic as a noun dates from 1650.)"

 

and you don´t even concider it being possible that everything CAN be changed during time? even some meaning of some word? so what about this "dudu" meaning then? coz as far as i remember - even that word got a new meaning in time - and on TC site times DO change, Rey, and so do things and even people, they change along with time



Edited (11/16/2009) by yakamozzz

14.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:36 pm

You can speak about a national hero as a..superstar or something like this that we use in our times...so saying " his fans..his fanatics.." sounds  odd.

15.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:40 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

You can speak about a national hero as a..superstar or something like this that we use in our times...so saying " his fans..his fanatics.." sounds  odd.

 

and you didn´t even notice the similar sound of those 2 words...? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} ok then... {#emotions_dlg.unsure} coz those 2 similar but soooo different meanings were supposed to make you to see the 2 sooooo different groups of people...nothing more... {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

16.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:43 pm

..then im fanatic

17.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 05:44 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

..then im fanatic

 

...and i´m a big fan...

18.       Zimmygirl
25 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 06:25 pm

Hello Eveyone

 

I was in Turkey for 3 months and stayed with a traditional Turkish family. Now, my host mom didn´t wear the hijab nor did her friends and extended family, only my host dad´s mom wore a hijab. It did not seem to be a big social issue for men or women about wearing a hijab, which I liked alot, because it was the WOMAN´S CHOICE to wear a hijab or not. Wearing a hijab in Turkey does not make you less modern, less educated less anything amazing. Also women who don´t wear hijab are not frowned upon or hated. I realised it is a personal choice thing.

However, with regards to public institutions, women were forbidden to wear a hijab. I have close friends in Turkey, they felt that their rights were being ignored, because they wanted to wear a hijab when they go to class at university. I guess, it is the Turkish government trying to make Turkey more secular and preventing Turkey from becoming like most Muslim countries where the hijab features everywhere.

The last time I checked, the law might have changed, women might have gotten the right to wear a hijab in a public institute (school, office, hospitals). I am not sure, I stand corrected

 

I spoke to many Turkish guys, some say they want their wives to wear it, some say they REALLY DON´T want their wives to wear it and some say IT IS HER CHOICE.

At the end of the day, it is a woman´s choice, whenver she forced to do something, then it becomes oppression and Islam is NOT about oppression.

A man should be fine with the idea that his wife wants or doesn´t want to wear a hijab. It is not up to him to decide for her.

If the woman feels that wearing a hijab is a symbol of pure wisdom and faith in her religion, she should NOT be prohibited and disliked for it. The same, if a woman does not feel the need to wear one, she should not be frowned upon or regarded as "low" from others.

 

My idea of the hijab. At the end of the day, it is a piece of cloth, it does not cover a beautiful heart or a dirty heart. If it is so important for a man to chase a hijab, let him chase it, for he will discover that it does not even present the fraction of what is in that woman´s heart and mind.

I think people should focus less on the hijab and focus more about their innerselves.  A hijab is part of our great religion Islam and Allah has asked of us to wear it, but we must focus more on things that REALLY matter,  (eg peace, honesty, integrity, honor, chastity and most of all LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR.

 

Please this is my opinion, it is NOT  the views of the religion. This is HOW I SEE it.

Thanks

19.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 06:33 pm

The Burqa 

Nasreddin Hodja´s first marriage was an arranged marriage, and in keeping with the custom of the time, he did not see his unveiled bride until the wedding ceremony. Unfortunately, she did not have an attractive face. 

The next day when the bride was making preparations to go to market, she asked her husband, as was the custom, "Shall I wear my burqa? I do not wish to show my face to anyone against your wishes." 

Nasreddin answered, "Wear your burqa or leave it at home. It is all the same to me to whom you show your face in public. All I ask is that you keep your face covered when you are at home with me."

20.       Beautiful soul
6 posts
 16 Nov 2009 Mon 11:33 pm

1st of all thank u sooo much for answering my question & i totally agree with most of u that hijab is a choice even Allah ordered all muslim women to wear but only Allah who judges us nobody has the right to say that a woman is good or bad because of her hijab , islam is not just about hijab  & appearance , islam is so much deeper than this

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