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1.       nifrtity
1806 posts
 28 Nov 2009 Sat 03:06 am

Merhaba,

i want to know about the old turkish history becouse i like the history in genral.

so if any one know an site in history please reply to me

thanks

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 28 Nov 2009 Sat 09:48 am

 

Quoting nifrtity

Merhaba,

i want to know about the old turkish history becouse i like the history in genral.

so if any one know an site in history please reply to me

thanks

 

No such single site to hold all of Turkish history can be found. Recommend you read up on US history instead; it is only few centuries old, takes roughly 10 minutes.



Edited (11/28/2009) by AlphaF

3.       vineyards
1954 posts
 28 Nov 2009 Sat 11:23 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

No such single site to hold all of Turkish history can be found. Recommend you read up on US history instead; it is only few centuries old, takes roughly 10 minutes.

 

The written history of Turks is relatively short compared to those of the Chinese, Egyptians, Greeks or Arabs.

 

The length of history has no bearing on what you are doing now. You may have a history of a few centuries but  if you can raise the likes of Edison, Morse,Franklin,Wright Brothers and if you have eminent scientists of world renown who got you on the moon and sent robots to Mars, the shortness of your history deserves an accolade not criticism.

4.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 12:46 am

 

Quoting vineyards

 

 

The written history of Turks is relatively short compared to those of the Chinese, Egyptians, Greeks or Arabs.

 

The length of history has no bearing on what you are doing now. You may have a history of a few centuries but  if you can raise the likes of Edison, Morse,Franklin,Wright Brothers and if you have eminent scientists of world renown who got you on the moon and sent robots to Mars, the shortness of your history deserves an accolade not criticism.

 

Interesting perspective.....but most "new" cultures are dynamic in the first few generations.  As the generations increase, the dynamicism seems to diminish. This was noted by Ibn Khaldun in the late 14th Century in his Muqaddimah.

 

Immigration has been the most valuable tool in the dynamicism in the USA. Without the immigrant energy, I wonder how things would be.  Perhaps with all the anti-immigration sentiments we will see?



Edited (11/29/2009) by alameda [fix]

5.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 12:55 am

don´t know why when I post I get two for one. Please delete this post.



Edited (11/29/2009) by alameda

6.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 01:05 am

You can almost find anything via Google

7.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 01:29 am

History of the Turkish people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Turkish_people

8.       vineyards
1954 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:24 am

There is a seed of truth in that. When there is a prospect of immense development people tend to cling together and work collectively for the same purpose to reap the imminent benefits. As time goes by however, the strength of this bond is severed and when society loses much of its efficiency destruction begins.

 

Nevertheless, it must be noted that there is quite a long period of time between these ends. There is a beginning phase marked by rapid development followed by generations of healthy and steady increase. We would expect a plateau to follow that and a steady decline interrupted by a complete collapse which marks the end of a regime. With the remains of the past civilization people set out to form a new one and this continues in vicious circle.

 

American civilization has made undeniable contributions to the entire world but it is not a unique civilization. Instead, it is a product of the strong winds of change that led to the realization of great geographical discoveries. The riches of the new continents were immense and were waiting to be utilized by an advanced society. It was Europeans who capitalized on this new opportunity to form wealthier lives. Albeit the entire process was marked by horrible sins and crimes committed against humanity. Slavery and racism are sadly in the texture of what we call as European civilization. It is still going quite strong to date. Somewhere in their mind set, there are still the seeds of it. I have seen this in business, in social relations and everything.

 

 

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Interesting perspective.....but most "new" cultures are dynamic in the first few generations.  As the generations increase, the dynamicism seems to diminish. This was noted by Ibn Khaldun in the late 14th Century in his Muqaddimah.

 

Immigration has been the most valuable tool in the dynamicism in the USA. Without the immigrant energy, I wonder how things would be.  Perhaps with all the anti-immigration sentiments we will see?

 

 



Edited (11/29/2009) by vineyards

9.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:03 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

You can almost find anything via Google

 

Yes, quite true, but you have to know what to look for. I love the way we can do research now.

10.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:19 am

 

Quoting vineyards

 

American civilization has made undeniable contributions to the entire world but it is not a unique civilization. Instead, it is a product of the strong winds of change that led to the realization of great geographical discoveries. The riches of the new continents were immense and were waiting to be utilized by an advanced society. It was Europeans who capitalized on this new opportunity to form wealthier lives.

 

 

Hmm....well I may say the Amerindians have another view about that.....and just how "advanced" those Europeans were anyway.....There are places here in CA that are sacred to them....the "Americans" want to develop those areas. Harnass the energy.............like they did other areas.............

 

I am old enough to have seen the destruction that has taken place..........and I am not at all happy about it, and I do not think it has been much benefit in the long run.....I know and have relatives who were able to live off the land...........now it´s all contaminated........advanced???

 

It has more to do with values and what is considered wealth...........I don´t need a diamond to appreciate the beauty of light....the beauty of a dew drop is more beautiful to me.......and more accessable as well.......and does not demand the destruction of resources....

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