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20.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Nov 2009 Mon 04:20 pm


Quoting vineyards

* If an opinion has a popular appeal, it is a strong opinion and it has coercion.


The popuarity of an opinion is very often determined by the presentation...put a diamond on a piece of paper bag ........or put it in a velvet lined box....and see which one gets a better reception.  How things are preceied and the reception they get is too often manipulated aka think propaganda....also known as "public relations"

* Ghandhi was surely an exception.


History has many exceptions....your Yunus Emre is another one


* I also believe African American have made a profound impact on the American civilization.


Yes they did, and they still are..........


Two of my favourite musicians (Monk and Miles Davis) are Afro-American. American athletism scene is dominated by African Americans and finally your president is an African American. African American people have very good cultural assets but to my knowledge they are not  offered equal economic opportunities. An Afro American icon Louis Armstrong would probably die in misery did he not have that stunning skill as a musician.


It was not only his skill as a musician, it was being in the right place at the right time and making the right connections.......I´m more curious how many other artists are/were never known.  Skill and talent are small parts of the equation.

 How many great musicians does the Afro-American community have? How many of them will end up as Mohammad Ali or Michael Jordan.


I´m not sure what you are referrng to, Mohammed Ali´s Parkenson´s syndrome?


In this competition, you need coercion, like that offered by Obama who made it possible for a Black person to head NASA.


If by coercion you mean the presentation of a better idea, a more humane idea, not more bute force.....I agree........I think we need some sort of international movement to stop the insanity of destruction and devastation "advanced" civilization is visiting on the World......Universe...as we are now expanding and distributing our trash and  "harvesting" resources in throughout the Galaxy......

Edited (11/30/2009) by alameda [error]
Edited (11/30/2009) by alameda

21.       yilgun-2010
572 posts
 30 Nov 2009 Mon 04:43 pm

This friend can find the Turkish history in my posts.

22.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 30 Nov 2009 Mon 05:36 pm


Quoting vineyards



The written history of Turks is relatively short compared to those of the Chinese, Egyptians, Greeks or Arabs.


The length of history has no bearing on what you are doing now. You may have a history of a few centuries but  if you can raise the likes of Edison, Morse,Franklin,Wright Brothers and if you have eminent scientists of world renown who got you on the moon and sent robots to Mars, the shortness of your history deserves an accolade not criticism.

I thought were were talking civilization, not technology.

US does have technology, most of which is smuggled in from Germany, by von Braun.


von Braun could not also bring some civilization to US, because Germans did not have any either...


Edited (12/1/2009) by AlphaF

23.       nifrtity
1806 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 02:45 am


Quoting ikicihan

History of the Turkish people



 thanks ikicihan you are understand what i was need

24.       nifrtity
1806 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 02:53 am


Quoting catwoman



Are you asking for someone to quote you a (1,000 page) history book here?


NO, sure i was said that if any one know an web site of this tobicCool

25.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Dec 2009 Tue 10:36 pm

This seems to go back more than that one....and I think it is related to Turkic peoples.....if I am wrong someone will correct me, I"m sure....Cool

The Horse, the Wheel, and Language:
How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World

it is a large book....but after all the question demands a lot of resources....have fun...


Quoting ikicihan

History of the Turkish people




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