Here is the link (Turkish):

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/13540806.asp?gid=229

The article says that Mongolia has a population problem and women far outnumber men. Moreover majority of the male population seems to have alcoholism problem which hurts the economy. They want 20.000 Turkish males to balance the men/women ratio and also they think hardworking Turkish males will knock some sense into Mongolian men. As for why they have chosen Turkey; the article tells that Mongolians regard Turks as their 3rd neighbors, because of historical connections. A  council will be arriving next month to discuss the issue.

I posted an article that the Chinese have a bride shortage...seems like they could probably get some help from the Chinese as well.

So who will volunteer here?

 Any news from Alaska Lis?still certain  sex shortage there?Pls,answer asap.I have always dreamt about husky and a decent pair of sleigh not to mention all these things provider

 in estonia: 100 women per 88,6 men population ~1,3 mln could you please mail some 11,4 turkish men here, too?  at least 100 women would be covered all 100% 

As far as I know, Mongolia is afraid of being absorbed into China. In fact it´s said that the only thing that prevented this historically was Russia. (not to mention inner-Mongolia which is already a part of China). So I can understand why they would not prefer Chinese ppl.

But more importantly, this seems to be just the right job for us!

 cultivating Mongolian soil,setting a role model for Mongolian males,hmmm,you will do the stuff when the time comes.

I am considering. (seriously)

why?

this (seriously) part made it sooo funny  sorry  sorry 

interesting....I wasn´t able to find any other articles regarding this matter in English.

It seems they are interested in the Turkic aspect of Turkish males....but many Turks are not Turkic, what about that? How about 20,000 Laz, Kurds, Zaza.........

Given the expense of finding a bride, this sounds like a great alternative for some. I guess the men would have to take up residence in Mongolia, or could one go there, get a bride and go back home?

..........so many details to work out!

Here is the poster of the campaign

What exactly is the slogan?  Atlamak is a verb with many meanings!

the last one, i think  otherwise there would be no reason to even make this poster 

 Perhaps they need to be less picky!

Mongolia is the country of horses. Atla gel means come with horse. Turkish man feels more masculan on a horse. Also "atla gel" is a quote in Turkish which means just come don´t think a lot" However, yes atlamak has several meanigs I had to use that provocative homonymic word becouse, it is not easy to persuade 20000 people to go to the other side of the world...

 but why you need to go there on a horse if they already have 20 000 horses too many and need 20 000 riders for them...?  just go by foot and the horse is granted for you there...? since they are selling those horses by ad-s like this, you obviously will have to marry the horse though... 

I find it totally weird that the writters of even the biggest newspapers do no check if what they are writing is correct.

It says "Moğolistan´da 6 kadına bir erkek düşüyor. ", so there is only 1 man for 6 women in Mongolian population.

Let´s check CIA factbook:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/mg.html

so at least we now know the age of those horses  oops - brides 

the question is...do we trust the cia Or perhaps this is an evil plan from the Chinese! They have a population that is too big anyway, with too many men. So, take the men out of Turkey, and then put the Chinese men in their place! AHA! I see it now. And since Mongolia has vast areas of nothing in it, those Turkish men will just be standing there with a bunch of horses in the middle of nowhere... conspiracy!

 Chinese instead Turks??? this never works canim...

Ehm; should I remind you that it was probably those same empty steppes in Mongolia that Turks first emerged from. So they definitely know better to do than just standing with horses.

(Orkhon valley inscriptions, the earliest trace of Turkic languages is in the middle of current day Mongolia)

have your facts, first, canim. you ve got nothing to do with mongolians (nor central asians) genetically. linguistically, yes.

turks are greeks. they are europeans, not asians.

You can have your paternal DNA checked for a mere 300 $ canım. Just google "23andme" and take the test there, as I have taken and I know who or what I am related to. But still thanks for your concern, albeit useless.

Btw. you might wanna read some recent papers since all those elite dominance theorems are being reconsidered and the conclusion is there was significant genetic flow Central Asia to Turkey.

Don´t believe in the news you read in the Turkish media. As far as I can observe even the most accurate news are only about 80% true.

 I read somewhere that Mongolian genes are commonly present in Kazakhs and Uzbeks. In Turkey, the Mongolian gene is about as much as it is in the DNA of central and eastern Europeans. So, what lemon says makes sense. A further study indicated, Turkish gene pool comprised a mixture of all the neighboring countries. The least observed genes in Turks are the central Asian related ones.  

phew phew im so much relieved now after reading your post.

i never had any concern re: you, yersu, canim.

my cousine had his precious dna checked he found out he had relatives in india, america (white american family) and even africa. we had a good laugh because are central asians.

yeah eayh, we know about migrations (a la invasions) from east to west. but it doesnt mean anything. when you check dna both of greeks and turks, they are pretty the same.

There are numerous problems(or dirty tricks should I say) involved when comparing Turkish DNA to Central Asia. The most significant one is; in all of the studies I´ve encountered; none was carried on ethnic Turks only. We know Turkey has Kurds, Circassians, Arabs, Rums, Laz etc. who do not have any connection anyway; these groups must be excluded from such tests. This is no different than taking samples from a black British citizen and concluding British people are from Congo. Anyway; I have a lot of other things to say on this matter but I don´t think the topic is very suitable.

why not? go on, i will read it.

That is because your paternal DNA is not effected by reproduction. You can take a Chinese man and marry him to an Irish female, and do the same for their male offspring for generations. In the end all males will be physically & genetically totally Irish except for his YDNA, which will still retain as Chinese. Anyway, who cares. I don´t even know what I am talking about anymore.

 Now why would you seriously concider that??

I think the whole world is suffering from that shortage.... maybe come help South Africa.  We South African women are ready to trade our men for Turkish men.... I opt it to be a 10 year plan...I bet you there will be less fatherless children and definately the economy will reap the benefits.

Please do not take my comment seriouslly, I speak from myself, I do not represent the views of my fellow sistas over herelol

My personal reason is that Mongolia and Central Asian steppes are the ancestral homeland of our people. (Although we are a mixed bunch now, most Turkish people align themselves with other Turkic peoples rather than our neighbors). It would be a shame if Mongolia is annexed by China or Russia due to demographic and economic issues, so I am ready to make the sacrifice. Besides I always wondered how it would be like living a totally pastoral life, riding a horse in the steppes etc.

As for turkish men, I don´t think they are special or different in any way. It´s like the saying "davulun sesi uzaktan hoş gelir"(A drums sound is pleasant from far away).

 Oh Dear....It was nice knowing you lemon! 

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

there you go! got you!

im telling ya, you ve got nothing to do with central asians. only about 3%.

 constructive Turkish people

exactly!

news articles written by pan-turkists to make the nation feel vast imperial! to make turks live in past feeding them with mish-mash.

lalalalala tralalalala!

you think those scientists who do research on dna stats have no idea of ethnicities living in turkey and grab anyone from the streets, drag into the lab, get the material and publish the results?

give them some credits to them.

what? what do you want?

There you go what? I expressed that I do not want Mongolia to be annexed by its stronger neighbors. What is wrong with that?

As for %3, there are various papers on the subject; with values ranging from %9 to %40. Can you please quote your source since this is the lowest estimation I have seen so far?

The %9 theory takes into consideration YDNA haplogroups C,N,O,Q which makes no sense. Here is a video about it explaining why that theory is full of errors. (in Turkish):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsET-brrzc

Note that for all of these theories the sample group is Turkish citizens, not ethnic Turks. So one would expect to see even higher values for ethnic Turks. Here is a rather recent article from Genome News Network about ancient Xiong-nu (Asia Huns) burial sites in Mongolia and their genetic connections to anatolian population.

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtml

Quoting: "Skeletons from the most recent graves also contained DNA sequences similar to those in people from present-day Turkey. This supports other studies indicating that Turkish tribes originated at least in part in Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period. "

Dear lemon, you do not seem very knowledgeable on the subject. At the same time; being so anti about this whole stuff you don´t seem to be someone unconcerned. As a result I can only conclude that you are a Turkic person by ethnicity. May I learn where you are from?

 I just wanted to say goodbye before all the "Turks" chewed you up for calling them Greeks!!  You´re a very sour lemon today and you need to stop with your lies !!

 Maybe Greeks would have a problem with that. I already feel we are very similar.

In fact Turkey Turks are the essence of Turkic people, as they were never ruled by Mongolians or Russians centuries like the ones in central Asia as some of them hardly speak Turkish like all speak Russian.  Throughout the history Oghuzs were mixed with persians, greks,arabs etc but the dominant was always the Turkic culture since then they began to call them Turks instead of Oghuzs, other ones are sub-cultures so in that essence we can say Greks are Turks ...

 Vinyards!  SHHHHHHH!  I have been to both countries.....my brothers are both Greek (my mother was married to a Greek man before she married my father) and I am married to a Turk...other than religion....I don´t notice much difference either....please don´t tell on me!

I also agree there are similarities, what I object is Turks are thought of as converted Greeks while the truth is far from it. The main similarity comes from:

-Half Millenium of Turkish occupation.

-Population exchange; in which the young Greek nation of about 4 millions received an influx of more than 1.5 million Anatolian Rums. Rums are mostly Hellenised peoples of Asia Minor and are not ethnic Greeks. You can go as far to call them culturally Turkified people, most of them spoke Turkish, sang Turkish/Rum songs etc. Heck there were even actually Orthodox Turks amongst them (Karamanides of the former Karamanoğlu State); as the exchange was based on religion.

How many Greeks actually know that the Greek folk instrument Bouzuki is a variation of the Turkish bağlama from the 18th century, and its name derives from "bozuk" (bozuk düzen is a type of tuning system for the bağlama which bouzuki is tuned to). Their Zeybekiko and Rembetiko are not native to mainkand Greece, these are from Anatolia. The list just goes on and on.

Anyway; what I am trying to tell is; influence goes both ways. One also has to think about Turkish influences on Greeks when considering why these people are culturally/genetically close.

I like Greeks, especially Turks & Greeks who are in Europe and who are away from all that Greek vs Turkey tensions make good friends, I have seen it many times. But there are some amongst them who hate Turks with a passion, then go to a restaurant and eat "Kazandipi" claiming it´s an ancient Hellenic name for an ancient Hellenic dessert. Oh well

 So where did Baklava originate from....I have heard both Greeks and Turks make the claim...and who owns Cyprus?

You and lemon really want to get in trouble today, don´t you! 

So what? Genetically I can be anything (x% central asian where x=0 to 100 ), who cares?

I feel 100% Turk and that´s what matters to me. As Atatürk once wisely said:

"Ne mutlu Türküm diyene"

The word baklava entered English from Turkish     it is sometimes connected with the Arabic word for "bean" (بقلة /baqlah/), but Wehr´s dictionary lists them as unrelated; the Arabic name is doubtless a borrowing from Turkish.  Buell argues that the word "baklava" may come from the Mongolian root baγla- ´to tie, wrap up, pile up´ composed with the Turkic verbal ending -v; baγla- itself in Mongolian is a Turkic loanword. The name baklava is used in many languages with minor phonetic and spelling variations.

Whoever owns Cyprus owns it currently. You have a problem with the current owners?

What was first, the börek or the boureki, the cacik or the tzaziki, the raki or the ouzo... It´s like what was first, the chicken or the egg? ...Actually, the chicken or the egg thing is easier.

Uhm; and here is a link about how Yunanistan is Turkey´s largest baklava importer:

http://www.stargazete.com/ekonomi/baklava-ihrac-urunu-oldu-en-fazla-yunanlilar-istiyor-85387.htm

Some years ago there was a tv series called "Yabancı Damat" which was also dubbed and shown in Greece. The series was about some family from Antep, a place famous of its baklava and there was also some imagery. Anyway; I remember news about how Greeks were interested in baklava and how they were ordering tons of it from Turkey. I bet some of them didn´t even know their "national" dessert. just lol.

Let´s look at the facts:

-The name isn´t Greek.

-Not a common food in Greece. Compare it to Turkey where it´s not only very common but also a customary food (Twice a year in religious holidays etc.).

-Greece imports it from Turkey.

Yet still EU. tries to give the rights for the name to Greece. Wow talk about phil-Hellenism + anti-Turkism.

 ..what? Where did you hear that?

Well there seems to be some kind of institution in EU about that. Here is a link about how Greeks got the rights for lokum and baklava, these are referred to as "traditional/national Greek foods" in booklets printed by EU.

http://yenisafak.com.tr/Gundem/Default.aspx?t=07.01.2009&i=161111

Lokum btw. is also referred as "Turkish delight", that is where that phrase originated from, or was. I am deeply saddened seeing stuff like this. :S

  barbapedia does not know????

I know that there are some rules in the EU, regarding the names of certain foods. For example, Parma ham must come from Parma. So, I thought he was talking about baklava and lokum as if it HAD to come from Greece, that it was otherwise not allowed to carry that name. But this is not the case, I was already in shock Don´t worry, although the Greek might print it in some EU leaflet that baklava and lokum is Greek, 99%  of the people already know that there is not debate on this one, that it clearly is not!

Fava (fava)-> Greek.

humus (houmous) -> Arabic.

Dolma (dolmades) -> Turkish.

Kebap (kebab) -> Arabic .

Pilav (pilafi) -> Persian.

tava (tava) -> Persian

musakka (mousaka) -> Arabic

tarama (tarama)-> Turkish

köfte (keftedes) -> Persian

kadayıf (kateife) -> Arabic

meze (meze) -> Persian

lokum (lokumi) -> Arabic

börek (boureki) -> Turkish

yoğurt (youghurt) -> Turkish

baklava (baklava) -> Turkish

As you see the words are often either Turkish or Arabic or Persian. We all know that, in Ottoman language, Arabic and Persian originated words widely used, and that Ottomans ruled Greece for about 500 years.This easily proves that Greeks learned such dishes/dish names from Turks. 

im singing in the rain....

lalalala trallalala

hmmmmmmmm. trouble is my name anyway

if the shoe fits...

not my concern, really, i just express my opinions.

i dont find anything extraordinary in the quote of ataturk.

An American friend of mine says he has difficulty following English language conversations when he goes to Britain or even the US. Since he has been living here for more than 20 years, he has a problem with catching the context. People talk about somethings which are only meaningful to those who know the background of the thing being talked about.

Similarly, we should take into account the context in which Ataturk said that sentence. It is probably one sentence that sums it all for the new Turkish republic which was built from the ashes of the former Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire was a religious nation. It assumed the duty of protecting and spreading Islam. Its sultan was a caliph who was like the pope of the Islamic (sunnite) nations almost all of which had already been united under a single flag.

The Ottomans deliberately put the emphasis on religion. We had Greek, Italian, Armenian and Jewish pashas, rulers and religious leaders who according to the millet system were given virtual autonomy in internal affairs. Each religion group were governed by their own religious leaders according to their own laws regarding affairs concerning their own communities.

As it is understood, the Ottoman version of the slogan would be "Ne mutlu müslümanım diyene" or "Hristiyanım diyene" etc. Ataturk changed this and launched a national government. At that time there was no money, lots of deaths and lots of poverty. Ataturk used the only bond available to him, it was the Turkish identity which had long been forgotten.

It was an era marked by the rise of nationalism. All of The Ottoman territory had been lost to nationalist rebellions. As a matter of fact, this nationalist movement has not stopped yet. Almost all of the wars that have happened in Europe can be directly linked with nationalism.

Nevertheless, what made Ataturk´s phrase meaningful was not the excessive nationalistic tone in it. On the contrary, he separated race from nationality. Turk is the name given to people living in and working for this country. He spent 15 years of his life for the purpose of creating an educated, dynamic and hardworking society. "Ne mutlu Türküm diyene" might actually be pointing out to the confidence he has in his people about the realization of his ideals.

  the why you looking at the picture i guess america own the cyprus as well as afganistan

and baklava belongs to america if you insist