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20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Feb 2010 Fri 03:35 am

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 we do have democracy but also we have so called i will show all attitude.Imagine 10 Poles 20 ways of thinking and this damn romanticism,we all criticise all but try to dare criticize if you are not one of us.We are too far democratic and independent in a way of thinking and too far naughty.Well,that is the way we are .))

Very well said sis !

Democracy, in Western sense, is a way of managing the country where nobody has the faintest idea what to do when a certain problem arises. in their total ignorance, all they can do is to count heads and assume the large numbers always decide right.

 

What happens when you throw a Pole - into that crowd - if the Pole  actually knows what to do in that specific situation. Would he yield to a crowd of idiots, when he knows them to be all wrong? Never !..It is only natural that he makes it a point of honor to get everybody else in line. {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

I always wondered why big corporations seem to be yapping in favor of democracy all the time, yet never adopt democracy for their own corporate management ! Wink

 

 



Edited (2/26/2010) by AlphaF

21.       raindrops
267 posts
 26 Feb 2010 Fri 11:19 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

I always wondered why big corporations seem to be yapping in favor of democracy all the time, yet never adopt democracy for their own corporate management !

 

 

 

bec demorcacy destroys

22.       MrX67
2540 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 09:36 pm

sure human rights not enough even very less,especially for some part of Turkish people (women,kids and poor people),but i think we have to notice that human rights term a bit relative depend on cultural specialities of different countries.Anyway our target must be 12 at least on the standart or common human rights..in my opinion main problem on human rigts ,setting optimum limits,for keep in balance society and individual..



Edited (3/1/2010) by MrX67

23.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 09:48 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

sure human rights not enough even very less,especially for some part of Turkish people (women,kids and poor people),but i think we have to notice that human rights term a bit relative depend on cultural specialities of different countries.Anyway our target must be 12 at least on the standart or common human rights..in my opinion main problem on human rigts ,setting optimum limits,for keep in balance society and individual..

 

Human rights are human rights, regardless of countries or cultures. See UN Declaration.

24.       MrX67
2540 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 09:50 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Human rights are human rights, regardless of countries or cultures. See UN Declaration.

 

 sure human rights are human rights,but things not the same as always how  seen from out

25.       raindrops
267 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 10:25 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Human rights are human rights, regardless of countries or cultures. See UN Declaration.

 

how many nations were united and represented at the moment of declaration adoption? )

26.       lemon
1374 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 11:17 pm

 

Quoting raindrops

 

 

how many nations were united and represented at the moment of declaration adoption? )

 

why? you have a problem with declaration? or certains nations have a problem?

27.       raindrops
267 posts
 01 Mar 2010 Mon 11:31 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

why? you have a problem with declaration? or certains nations have a problem?

 

it was answer to

 

24.       MrX67
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 01 Mar 2010 Mon 02:50 pm

 

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Human rights are human rights, regardless of countries or cultures. See UN Declaration.

 

 sure human rights are human rights,but things not the same as always how  seen from out

28.       barkindo
22 posts
 02 Mar 2010 Tue 09:24 am

human rights in Turkey?  In the past i have befriended a young, very bright autistic young turkish man.  he seemed t be living  in appalling conditions and with a host of health problems and he  was- and is- in continuous pain.  I managed to get him to come and see me, and it became soon apparent that he was suffering from more than just health problems. --he had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder-- caused by a childhood of abuse and neglect.  What would parents compel to do that to their only son?  Only because he was  ´different´.

He is now facing a lifetime of ridicule, illness and probably the tender mercies of a Turkish mental hospital.  I love Turkey and as you said, bad things happen everywhere.  But having to stand by and watch helplessly is a different story. 

29.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 12:06 am

 

Quoting barkindo

human rights in Turkey?  In the past i have befriended a young, very bright autistic young turkish man.  he seemed t be living  in appalling conditions and with a host of health problems and he  was- and is- in continuous pain.  I managed to get him to come and see me, and it became soon apparent that he was suffering from more than just health problems. --he had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder-- caused by a childhood of abuse and neglect.  What would parents compel to do that to their only son?  Only because he was  ´different´.

He is now facing a lifetime of ridicule, illness and probably the tender mercies of a Turkish mental hospital.  I love Turkey and as you said, bad things happen everywhere.  But having to stand by and watch helplessly is a different story. 

 

I guess you might be interested in the book of Birsen Basar (24), a Dutch-Turkish young woman who wrote an autobiographic book about her autism. I don´t know the Turkish title nor publisher, only the Dutch one, but I think you can google it.

30.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 03 Mar 2010 Wed 10:37 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Human rights are human rights, regardless of countries or cultures. See UN Declaration.

 

 Actually, the UN declaration has been under debate since the beginning. Not all of the countries in the world have signed it, and also some countries have signed it with a big reservations in the end-notes. The same is true for the Universal Children rights convention (which by the way, among others Turkey has ratified, but the US has not).

The question always remains, are the things that some of us hold for true (like the equality between men and women) something that is a universal truth. For example, in the Quran inequality between men and women is clearly written down, so where does this fit in with the so called universal rights?

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