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Another one that I forgot to ask about is ki like:

Her zamankı

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 [not too sure about the ´te´ ending on ´isteyip´ though  ]

te ending is originally de and It´s te here because of consnant harmony you can read about here

..of course it is...I wasn´t thinking!

I didn´t mean I don´t know what the ´te/de´ ending means - I meant I wasn´t sure what it was doing attached to an ´ip´ ended verb in this case  Unless the ´ip´ here has some other meaning.   Difficult to tell with just the one word.

Correct way to write it:

isteyip de (but de behaves like a suffix and subject to consonant mutation here so "isteyipte" reflects how we say it)

Thanks si++ - I understand that, but what does it mean? Can you give me a sentence where you would use verb+ip+de/te suffix like this?  Because to me it looks like ´in/on/at wish and.....´ or ´wish and too...´ neither of which makes sense to me.   Excuse me if I am being rather dense here.

it´s difficult without a context, I think so too.

But.. could it be something like: "Bir araba isteyip de aldı" - "He wanted a car and bought [it]". If I remember correctly, "de" can take the meaning of "ve"..

I think you might be right - thanks - I forgot ´de´ can be used for ´and´ but it´s sort of unnecessary with the ´ip´ I would have thought.

Okay, let us put few basic things on the table directly:

• There is no -te/ta conjunction in Turkish, it can only be suffix, primaly the locative one, hence always attacthed to the previous part of the word and means, as you already wrote above, in/on/at :

Example: Sinifta, (ilk) bakişta, uçuşta

• If -de/da is written separetely, then it is the conjunction there, primaly meaning ´and/as well/either/neither´ but sometimes ´but´, like in the case here. If it is written together, then it is the locative suffix (actually the prior and original version of -te/ta above):

Example:

masada, görevde, firinda -  lokative suffix

ben de, sen de, yarin da - conjuntion, simply ´too, as well´

in negative statements, it means ´neither, either´

Ben de sevmedim. - I didn´t like either.

And finally, and rarely it means ´but, and yet´:

Isteyip de elde edememek

Gidip de donmemek

Gorüp de soylememek

Bilip de bilmemezlikten gelmek

Here, -de/da signals that the following part is negative, opposite, etc. of the first part, hence roughly ´but´.

Thank you for your explanation!

So, my example wasn´t good. Guess this would be better: "Bir araba isteyip de almadı" ?

Edit: guess I concentrated too much on your last examples and not on what you said before.. So my first example was also right

Anyway, thanks!